Daimo B
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Restricted for 2 years or 21 years of age I thought...?
Hence why you never seen 19 year olds on 750s, 1000's etc....
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Steve
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i thought you had to be over 25 to ride some bikes?
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3CorsaMeal
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Originally posted by ed
You wouldn't wish it on anyone and it's really sad when stuff like this happens. It just shows that sometimes some risks are just too stupid to take 
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Wayne
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Originally posted by Steve
i thought you had to be over 25 to ride some bikes?
Once your 21 and have passed your DAS you can ride anything you want, anything below 21 just 125cc
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_Allan_
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FFS
2 Years restriction is nothing to do with age. If you pass at 17 and are restricted for 2 years then at 19 you ride anything you like.
Restriction does not mean just 125cc either. It is 33BHP power restriction. So at 17 you can ride a 1000cc+ if you wish as long as it's restricted to 33BHP. It will be shit but it can be done.
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Daimo B
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Maybe its me, but im sure i was told you have to be over 21 by my instructor. Restricted to 33bhp up till that point, full licence included.
I'll go and ask, brb.
[Edited on 05-06-2006 by VXR]
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Robin
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it cant be 21, my mate is 20 and rides a GSXR600, on a full license, hes had VFR400s since he was 18
started on a 50 when he was 16, 125 at 17, 400s at 18 and a 600 at 19
nothing to do with age, except the 125cc bit, you have to be over 17
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Arnie
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Originally posted by robmarriott
started on a 50 when he was 16, 125 at 17, 400s at 18 and a 600 at 19
That's the same as my mate, rides a CBR 600RR now and he's 20. Got knocked off yesterday though, broke his elbow and I think his bike is a write off
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Daimo B
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Agreed, just checked, your right.
Dammit, why didn't I apply when i was younger instead of doing my dam corsa 
Arnie, may be written off, and a broken arm, but your still talking to him, count as a blessing!
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BYRON
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Originally posted by Arnie
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Originally posted by robmarriott
started on a 50 when he was 16, 125 at 17, 400s at 18 and a 600 at 19
That's the same as my mate, rides a CBR 600RR now and he's 20. Got knocked off yesterday though, broke his elbow and I think his bike is a write off
One of my mates had a 600rr - lovely bike....He sold it before he killed himself.
Ive got 2 other mates that have come off their 400cc bikes. One was being followed by police, and the other came unstuck mid corner
The one being followed by police is back on a bike (new ninja) and the other sold up and got another car
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Russ
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to be fair to the lad, he could pedal fast... oh wait, u mean motorbike
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Arnie
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Originally posted by VXR
Arnie, may be written off, and a broken arm, but your still talking to him, count as a blessing!
Yes I know, trying to convince him to stop riding. He lost his Dad last year in a bike accident!
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Daimo B
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My dad broke his neck, was hit by a drunk driver. paralysed for two weeks.
He crashed whilst racing, broke ribs, arms, got gangreen in his arm and was a few days from having it cut off.
He's lost a couple of friends in his younger days, even seen someone decapitated, but, he still continues to ride.
Don't stop riding, just ride safer, and take more caution.
I've already had an off on the outside lane of the A2 in rush hour. Was lucky not to get run over or seriously hurt (Guy cut accross lanes without looking and i binned it trying to avoid him).
Its scarey shoot mon!!!!! you have to be so carefull. Nearly got caught out on friday with some diesel on roundabout. Front end went weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and my bum went pooooooooooooooooooooo
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MR2Mike
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no mate, orrell in wigan
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was this in Salford, by the Maccy D's?
I was going past there yesterday and they had closed the road off. Went the back way onto the road and saw it full of Police on the otherside and a smashed up bike all over the road. Might be a different one, but that must of happened a few mins before I went past 
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MR2Mike
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news on this story........ the lad had a row with his gf (after a drink) shot off on his bike in anger, she rang the police to tell them that he'd had a drink.... they caught up with him.... and the rest you can guess
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Steve
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blame the GF then TBH
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MR2Mike
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yep. he probably wasnt even speeding, so might not have even been pulled if she hadnt rang police. obviously i dont know how much drink he had consumed
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Wayne
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Originally posted by _Allan_
FFS
2 Years restriction is nothing to do with age. If you pass at 17 and are restricted for 2 years then at 19 you ride anything you like.
Restriction does not mean just 125cc either. It is 33BHP power restriction. So at 17 you can ride a 1000cc+ if you wish as long as it's restricted to 33BHP. It will be shit but it can be done.
What's the point in riding a 1000cc bike restricted? What's that going to acheive? Make you look cool? You might as well stick to a 50cc get some riding experience then do your proper test when your 21.
Personally i think you should be 25 before you can take your full license as there are people who pass there test they can go buy the fastest bike in the world then go kill them selves, start of small then work your way up 
As for the riding at 17 your restricted for 2 years then you can ride any cc deristricted? If that's what you mean then you are wrong, as i have just passed my D.A.S and asked all these questions as i was doing this.
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X 60RSA
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Not good!
Around 3-4 years ago i saw a bike go past my house and thought 'i'm sure thats my mate' he's not hanging about, ten secs later past went a cop car.........then 3-4 mins passed, the bike shot past my house again......i'm thinking WTF!!!
Anyway, turns out he had an illegal rear number plate and the police had been chasing him for around 20mins! lol Think he gave up in the end and lost his licence :lol
Why he didnt just stop i'll never know
[Edited on 05-06-2006 by X 60RSA]
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Wayne
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I've had this discussion with Adam_b, you will never out run a car round bends etc, you might be able to get past cars easyier and in a straight line go faster but there isn't many straight roads for long. Just give up and pull over
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_Allan_
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Originally posted by Wayne
As for the riding at 17 your restricted for 2 years then you can ride any cc deristricted? If that's what you mean then you are wrong, as i have just passed my D.A.S and asked all these questions as i was doing this.
Please read then tell me how am I wrong, I have highlighted the parts for you or for you to pass to your WRONG DAS instructor. 
At age 17 or over, you will have two types of full motorcycle licence to aim for - the A1 light motorcycle licence or the standard category A motorcycle licence.
To gain a full A1 light motorcycle licence you must successfully complete CBT and pass a theory test followed by a practical test on a vehicle between 75cc and 125cc. A full A1 licence permits you to ride any motorcycle up to 125cc and a power output of up to 11kW (14.6 bhp) without `L' plates, carry pillion passengers and use motorways.
To gain a full standard category A licence you must successfully complete CBT and pass a theory test followed by a practical test on a motorcycle of over 120cc but not larger than 125cc and capable of at least 100kph. In practice the normal test vehicle will be a 125cc machine. A full standard category A licence permits you ride any motorcycle with a power output of up to 25kW (33bhp) and a power-to-weight ratio not exceeding 0.16kW/kg without `L' plates, carry pillion passengers and use motorways. You are restricted to a motorcycle up to 25kW for two years (not counting any periods of disqualification). After two years you may ride any size motorcycle.
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Daimo B
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Allan is correct....
Also, for the person who said whats the point in riding a restricted bike?
Have you ever ridden one? A bike with 1000cc and a 33bhp restrictor will still go like poop off of a shovel. Its the simple low down power and torque it will have.
Top end will be pants, as will the overal feel of the bike compared to standard, but it is a good way of getting a bike and leanring to deal with the bottom end power.
Many people on SV's do it (33bhp to 70bhp )
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Wayne
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Vehicle requirements for motorcycles and mopeds
Moped
A moped must have an engine capacity not exceeding 50 cc, and a maximum speed of 50 km/h (31 mph). If first used before 1 August, 1977, it must be equipped with pedals by which it can be propelled.
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Motorcycles
If your motorcycle is less than 75 cc it is not acceptable for the practical motorcycle test. If you pass your practical test on a motorcycle with automatic or semi-automatic transmission, this will be recorded on your licence. Your full licence entitlement will be restricted to motorcycles in this category.
Only candidates with certain disabilities can use a motorcycle and sidecar combination for the test. The licence obtained as a result of this test will be restricted to such combinations.
Light motorcycle (category A1) (See note 1)
solo motorcycle between 75 and 125 cc, power output not exceeding 11 kilowatts (kW) (maximum 14.6 brake horse power (bhp))
Standard motorcycle (category A) (See note 2)
solo motorcycle between 121 and 125 cc, capable of exceeding 100 km/h (62.5 mph)
Note:
The BMW C1 motorcycle is NOT a suitable machine for a practical test
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Accelerated access (See note 3)
engine capacity unspecified, at least 35 kW (46.6 bhp)
speed unspecified
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Direct access scheme (DAS) (See note 3)
engine capacity unspecified, at least 35 kW (46.6 bhp)
speed unspecified
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Notes:
A light motorcycle licence (category A1) will give you full licence entitlement to ride machines up to 125 cc with a power output of up to 11 kW.
A standard motorcycle licence (category A) will restrict you for a period of two years to riding machines with a power output not exceeding 25 kW and a power/weight ratio not exceeding 0.16 kW/kg. After the two year period you may ride any motorcycle.
Accelerated access or direct access - if you are aged 21 or over you can take the test on a motorcycle with a power output of at least 35 kW (46.6 bhp). If successful you can then ride any motorcycle.
Ok i might of been slightly wrong but i don't really care
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