| Chris F 
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 | at the moment i have a dell dimension 3000
 2.6GHz Intel celeron
 512MB RAM
 80 GB HD
 No extra video or sound card!
 
 I would like to get into PC gaming and want to play the new titles like quake 4 and half life 2!
 
 should i fork out for a new systeam?
 
 or can i add a good graphics card to my pc! see pic below!
 
  
 also wat card would u surgest for 100 quid or below?
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| Chris F 
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 | TTT
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| Kyle T 
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 | You need a new system. Fullstop
 
 a PCI card wont run HL2, go for a nice steady a64 s939 system with a decent PCI - E Card.
 
 
 
 
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| Chris F 
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 | ok cheers for the keep lad! will have to save up a lot then!
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| Chris F 
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 | oh how much would i be looking at for something like tht?
 
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| Chump 
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 | you dont even have an AGP slot for a half decent graphics card....you're gonna need a new system. You could build a reasonable spec PC for around £600.
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| Chris F 
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 | wat about a PCI card?
 
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| John 
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 | You can't get decent pci graphics cards as stated above.
 You don't really have any options for upgrade there.
 To play games you'll need at least a new motherboard and graphics card, depending what other components the system already has
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| Kyle T 
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 quote:Originally posted by John
 You can't get decent pci graphics cards as stated above.
 You don't really have any options for upgrade there.
 To play games you'll need at least a new motherboard and graphics card, depending what other components the system already has
 
 
 with the spec hes got hes gonna want a new MoBo, CPU, Memory and GPU.
 
 It wont be worth spending any money on that system.
 
 ASRock (939DUAL-SATA2) ALi 1695 Chipset PCI Express 8 Channel sound LAN ATX
 
 AMD (Venice) Athlon 64 3500+ (ADA3500DAA4BW) OEM Skt 939
 
 Kingston 512MB DDR PC3200 400MHz CL3 Memory Module (x2)
 
 Sapphire X800GT 256mb 256bit PCI-Express VGA + TV out + DVI
 
 This bundle would be a safe bet for playing said games and keeping future proof. The MoBo also has capability for AGP, so you could buy a cheaper AGP card for now like a 9800pro if your on a real tight budget. You'd be better saving and going straight for PCI - E.
 
 bout £350 for that lot.
 
 You'll need stuff like Power Supply (please get a decent one) and Cases etc - but heres a rough starting guide.
 
 
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| John 
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 | You can never futureproof.
 Socket 939 is old already.
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| Chump 
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 | 
 quote:Originally posted by Kyle T
 
 quote:Originally posted by John
 You can't get decent pci graphics cards as stated above.
 You don't really have any options for upgrade there.
 To play games you'll need at least a new motherboard and graphics card, depending what other components the system already has
 
 
 with the spec hes got hes gonna want a new MoBo, CPU, Memory and GPU.
 
 It wont be worth spending any money on that system.
 
 ASRock (939DUAL-SATA2) ALi 1695 Chipset PCI Express 8 Channel sound LAN ATX
 
 AMD (Venice) Athlon 64 3500+ (ADA3500DAA4BW) OEM Skt 939
 
 Kingston 512MB DDR PC3200 400MHz CL3 Memory Module (x2)
 
 Sapphire X800GT 256mb 256bit PCI-Express VGA + TV out + DVI
 
 This bundle would be a safe bet for playing said games and keeping future proof. The MoBo also has capability for AGP, so you could buy a cheaper AGP card for now like a 9800pro if your on a real tight budget. You'd be better saving and going straight for PCI - E.
 
 bout £350 for that lot.
 
 You'll need stuff like Power Supply (please get a decent one) and Cases etc - but heres a rough starting guide.
 
 
 
   My god - do not listen to this recommendation....Asrock is the single worst motherboard money can buy. Also 512mb of RAM really isn't enough to run current games properly. For instance Battlefield 2 runs pretty bad on anything less than 1GB.....speaking from bitter experience.... | 
| Kyle T 
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 | I put (x2) after the ram - meaning 1gb. Spanner.
 
 I choose Asrock as it is a Asus motherboard, rebadged for their budget line of products. I have built 3 machines with that MoBo, one of which (mine) is a 3500 venice clocked at 2.65Ghz, and is stable as you like.
 
 
 
 
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| Kyle T 
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 | 
 quote:Originally posted by John
 You can never futureproof.
 Socket 939 is old already.
 
 
 Correct, however it is the safest bet for the budget i imagine he will be on.
 
 
 
 
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| Russ 
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 quote:not really, as AM2 is not out yet..Originally posted by John
 You can never futureproof.
 Socket 939 is old already.
 
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| Russ 
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 quote:your name sums you up, the asrock board is great, he wontt have to buy everything all ine one go because it has agp and pci-e slotsOriginally posted by Chump
 
 quote:Originally posted by Kyle T
 
 quote:Originally posted by John
 You can't get decent pci graphics cards as stated above.
 You don't really have any options for upgrade there.
 To play games you'll need at least a new motherboard and graphics card, depending what other components the system already has
 
 
 with the spec hes got hes gonna want a new MoBo, CPU, Memory and GPU.
 
 It wont be worth spending any money on that system.
 
 ASRock (939DUAL-SATA2) ALi 1695 Chipset PCI Express 8 Channel sound LAN ATX
 
 AMD (Venice) Athlon 64 3500+ (ADA3500DAA4BW) OEM Skt 939
 
 Kingston 512MB DDR PC3200 400MHz CL3 Memory Module (x2)
 
 Sapphire X800GT 256mb 256bit PCI-Express VGA + TV out + DVI
 
 This bundle would be a safe bet for playing said games and keeping future proof. The MoBo also has capability for AGP, so you could buy a cheaper AGP card for now like a 9800pro if your on a real tight budget. You'd be better saving and going straight for PCI - E.
 
 bout £350 for that lot.
 
 You'll need stuff like Power Supply (please get a decent one) and Cases etc - but heres a rough starting guide.
 
 
 
   My god - do not listen to this recommendation....Asrock is the single worst motherboard money can buy. Also 512mb of RAM really isn't enough to run current games properly. For instance Battlefield 2 runs pretty bad on anything less than 1GB.....speaking from bitter experience.... 
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| Chump 
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 | funnily enough thats not my name f00l.....whatever.....i'm afraid you're very much mistaken....there's a reason why most of the PCs you can buy on Ebay use this MOBO.....i'll give u a few hours to work out why
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| Kyle T 
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 | Well I read the benchmarks before i bought it, which were impressive for a hybrid board. and bought one.
 
 My personal experience with them prooves that they are a very stable motherboard, and i would recommend them to anyone.
 
 
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| Ian 
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 | Keep it civil please
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