R349XWP
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quote:
Originally posted by Teddy
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Originally posted by R349XWP
Sorry but the ST will piss on the coupe.and a clio 182!
Forget what the "paper" times say.
I have driven an ST and a clio, the clio was quicker, torquier and handled about the same if not a little better.
Renault have been buliding this type of car for years now and they are pretty dam good at it.
Vauxhall and Ford are the same - luke warm hot hatches (i know i drive one myself) Lets just hope the Corsa VXR is better than the ST (well i know it will be  )
The ST will suffer with torque problems with the Coupe Turbo as with the Vauxhall being turbocharged gives significant gains.
The new ST is turbocharged also!
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Teddy
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I didnt mean the focus i meant the fiesta!
Ive just read the title of the thread again 
Oh what a tool -
[Edited on 24-11-2005 by Teddy]
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Teddy
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The Astra VXR will blow anything out the water in its class.
The Megane Sport - great car but to lardy and just not quick enough
Golf GTi - VXR has 40bhp advantage nuff said.
Focus ST - the only thing i know about them from reading is that with the 5 cylinder lump i notice comments that the front end is super heavy which will affect it plus 225bhp - the Astra has a weight and power advantage.
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Ditch
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wake up teddy!!
Fiesta ST aint even in the same league!
The focus really stands out as being poor when you consider it has an extra piston and cc advantage over most of todays hatches!!
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SetH
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wtf have they even brought this out? decided to kill the focus RS?
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Gez G
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Originally posted by steve101
Focus ST is 2.5 Turbo (5 cyl?) 221bhp? Says it gets to 60 in 6.6 secs? Thats still slower than a VXR..
Yep i'd choose a VXR over a focus anyday.. looks much meaner.
Yep thats what I thought - 5 cyl lump.
Can come in a mingin orange colour too 
VXR any day 
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Ditch
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I struggled to find a pic of one which wasnt that puke orange colour!!
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Siberia
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the astra vxr was totally shit when the stig had it... done nothing but understeer i was really dissapointed by it.... i bet the st dont do this...
would have neither of them to be honest...
[Edited on 25-11-2005 by Siberia]
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Ojc
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That was a pre production model Siberia, was'nt even the finnished article, and it had the 19's on it, hardly good for track driving.
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mwg
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I bet a VXR would rape the ST on the track or road
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Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
the astra vxr was totally shit when the stig had it... done nothing but understeer i was really dissapointed by it.... i bet the st dont do this...
would have neither of them to be honest...
[Edited on 25-11-2005 by Siberia]
The ST focus left the roundabout side to side with the Astra Coupe... which is not exactly a "well handling" car.
I just went balls out through the rbt at about 60-65-ish!!
4WD rules!
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3CorsaMeal
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I reckon the focus ST is a better car than the VXR
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Ojc
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Jim, you eat mice.
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Butler
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Saw a massive vxr advert in london yesterday, had a pic of the car and a quote that just said "Vxr beats golf gti's" autocar
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broster
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id say the st is a better car than the vxr.
all IMO obviously
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Tim
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Awesome. I will wait for a VXR to be written off and nick the turbo 
I've heard they'll only retail from Vauxhall for around £500 and are meant to be a lot stronger than the standard ZLET item...
If the ST is using a Volvo T5 lump it's quite cool -- lots of tuning potential. My brother's is stupidly quick (in a Volvo )
[Edited on 30-11-2005 by Tim]
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Ojc
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Lots of people are getting the VXR turbo from there Mk4's already.
Mike Warner on Mig has one already.
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Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by Tim
Awesome. I will wait for a VXR to be written off and nick the turbo
I've heard they'll only retail from Vauxhall for around £500 and are meant to be a lot stronger than the standard ZLET item...
If the ST is using a Volvo T5 lump it's quite cool -- lots of tuning potential. My brother's is stupidly quick (in a Volvo )
[Edited on 30-11-2005 by Tim]
Again though comes back to the fwd power limit.
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3CorsaMeal
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its not all about the 3 figures to me
0-62, top end mph, bhp
£17k for the ST, am tempted
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Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by Tim
Awesome. I will wait for a VXR to be written off and nick the turbo
I've heard they'll only retail from Vauxhall for around £500 and are meant to be a lot stronger than the standard ZLET item...
If the ST is using a Volvo T5 lump it's quite cool -- lots of tuning potential. My brother's is stupidly quick (in a Volvo )
[Edited on 30-11-2005 by Tim]
Allo Tim!
Modding the coupe already are we?
VXR turbo is a much stronger, more capable unit.
but you gotta remember the lump used the the VXR has substantial under piston cooling and other jiggery pokery to stop it melting... I would take all the precautionary measures when fitting that tubbie fella!
FMIC with water spray bars plus WI
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