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dirtydan
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right tried searching regarding bhp etc for a XE (cant search more than 3 lettes )

I know its v expensive etc.

On a Astra GTE 2.0 16v ( about 155 bhp )

What would be required to get this to about 200bhp ( or maybe just over? )

Looking on regal

Dbilas dynamic individual throttle injector systems (give about 20-25bhp?)

Superchip (about 10-13bhp? )

Cams ??? (kent or piper unsure which is better ?? guessing you need to upgrade cams if your upgrading the rest ).

Any suggestions / help would be great. Cheers
Andy GSi
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throttle bodies
Teddy
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30th Mar 05 at 11:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
You will need throttle bodies for 200bhp plus
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30th Mar 05 at 11:25   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
am I right thinking that you need cams+proper mapping+proper management to reach 200+ with TB's??

[Edited on 30-03-2005 by willay]
Teddy
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Yes - full set up.

getting to 175-180 is achieveable without them and realibale.

but for over 200bhp you need bodies and a real "proper" map.
loo_goblin
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standard C20XE is 147bhp
Andy GSi
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quote:
Originally posted by loo_goblin
standard C20XE is 147bhp


thought they were 150bhp
Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by loo_goblin
standard C20XE is 147bhp


Wrong

20XE's are 157bhp
C20XE's are 150bhp

The difference being the inclusion of a CAT
loo_goblin
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147 accordig to Total vaux v-files
Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by loo_goblin
147 accordig to Total vaux v-files


I have the Vauxhall press release on both the "early" Astra GTE 16v (non cat) 157bhp

Cavalier GSi with Cat - 150bhp same engine.

Dont take the V-Files as gospel - they are always wrong
James R
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30th Mar 05 at 12:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Also cause of the heads too

To get 200BHP of of an XE you need a fresh bottom end, ARP rod bolts
TB's, flowed head, mild cams (264's), exhaust manifold and a mapping sesh.
So about 2000-2500 worth all running.
or to cheat, 50shot of nitrous
Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by j1400
Also cause of the heads too

To get 200BHP of of an XE you need a fresh bottom end, ARP rod bolts
TB's, flowed head, mild cams (264's), exhaust manifold and a mapping sesh.
So about 2000-2500 worth all running.
or to cheat, 50shot of nitrous


You would need higher lift than 264's for over 200bhp
Fad
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yeah definately need a wilder cam along the lines of 274.

do need best part of 2K though
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by the way its 161bhp and the torque on the lower graph
waynep
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a standard c20xe bored to a 2.1 will give how much bhp ?
Fad
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not sure if i ever get mine on the rollers i will tell you
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by Teddy

I have the Vauxhall press release on both the "early" Astra GTE 16v (non cat) 157bhp

Cavalier GSi with Cat - 150bhp same engine.


Does it say bhp or ps?
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by dirtydan
right tried searching regarding bhp etc for a XE (cant search more than 3 lettes)


Try C20XE
Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by Joff
quote:
Originally posted by Teddy

I have the Vauxhall press release on both the "early" Astra GTE 16v (non cat) 157bhp

Cavalier GSi with Cat - 150bhp same engine.


Does it say bhp or ps?


Astra press release is German and is PS
Cavalier is british and is in BHP
Teddy
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Also have a Calibra Turbo press pack in German - its a dam good read

 
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