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Taking off from Toulouse, Blagnac in France
Alongside a 747-400
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Swiftie
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UUmm  is that in a simulator?
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CorsAsh
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Its the real world as seen through Monkey's eyes
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Jambo
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 look at it next to the 74 its a dwarf!
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leeshez
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Swiftie
UUmm is that in a simulator?
Yes, Simulator down to the word. MTOW and flight dynamics are true to within reasoning, it flies really rather nicely. Service ceiling of 42,000ft
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Stevie_Corsa
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Yea ur not rite!
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
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Originally posted by Swiftie
UUmm is that in a simulator?
Yes, Simulator down to the word. MTOW and flight dynamics are true to within reasoning, it flies really rather nicely. Service ceiling of 42,000ft
yeah but the textures are just so stretched, it would get on my nerves how bad the gfx are.
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Reedy
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
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Originally posted by Swiftie
UUmm is that in a simulator?
Yes, Simulator down to the word. MTOW and flight dynamics are true to within reasoning, it flies really rather nicely. Service ceiling of 42,000ft
yeah but the textures are just so stretched, it would get on my nerves how bad the gfx are.
 you are kidding me right? give me your e-mail adress and let me send you some hi-res pics 
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Cybermonkey
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TTT
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Swiftie
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Fair plays in simulations it flies. Stick that in real conditions. & we'll see how far it copes. But so far so good.
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Swiftie
Fair plays in simulations it flies. Stick that in real conditions. & we'll see how far it copes. But so far so good.
FS2004 is used by many aviation institutions around the world now, including the RAF, the biggest flying schools...
It flies in FS2004 as long as the FDE is accurate, then it will fly identical in the real world.
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Dom
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
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Originally posted by Swiftie
Fair plays in simulations it flies. Stick that in real conditions. & we'll see how far it copes. But so far so good.
FS2004 is used by many aviation institutions around the world now, including the RAF, the biggest flying schools...
It flies in FS2004 as long as the FDE is accurate, then it will fly identical in the real world.
the RAF have their own simulators and software - fair enough they may piss about with FS, but they sure dont use it to teach students.
Yes FS is pretty good, but its still all fixed numbers, and yes the data COULD be spot on, but in the real world things change - ie: size of aircraft in fly (yes it does change in flight, only mm's mind but concorde used to lengthen by 2"s during super-sonic) etc etc
im with swiftie on this though....especially considering FS is created by microshite, and i certainly wouldnt trust that shite to guard my life on transport 
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Swiftie
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
FS2004 is used by many aviation institutions around the world now, including the RAF, the biggest flying schools...
It flies in FS2004 as long as the FDE is accurate, then it will fly identical in the real world.
Dont mean to sound obnoxious but mother nature cannot be prejudged. Fair plays the simulator can simulate all sorts of conditions. But add the fact that it still needs a type certifcate and type approval & has not been test flown, neither reached prototype stage. It still a bit of work to be done.
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Swiftie
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
FS2004 is used by many aviation institutions around the world now, including the RAF, the biggest flying schools...
It flies in FS2004 as long as the FDE is accurate, then it will fly identical in the real world.
Dont mean to sound obnoxious but mother nature cannot be prejudged. Fair plays the simulator can simulate all sorts of conditions. But add the fact that it still needs a type certifcate and type approval & has not been test flown, neither reached prototype stage. It still a bit of work to be done.
I know where you are coming from, and there is no substitute for the real thing, but the press keep babbling on about how it wont get off the ground etc. There are larger aircraft flying today... Certification wont be an issue, the engines are fully flight tested with over 60 hours on them (RR) and fully rated up to 80,000lb, although they have developed 90,000lb in testing.
As for not reached prototype stage, the prototype A380-880 001 was at the unveiling , 002/3/4 are all currently in Germany being finished off ready for testing. Will be in the air by April
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Swiftie
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
I know where you are coming from, and there is no substitute for the real thing, but the press keep babbling on about how it wont get off the ground etc. There are larger aircraft flying today... Certification wont be an issue, the engines are fully flight tested with over 60 hours on them (RR) and fully rated up to 80,000lb, although they have developed 90,000lb in testing.
As for not reached prototype stage, the prototype A380-880 001 was at the unveiling , 002/3/4 are all currently in Germany being finished off ready for testing. Will be in the air by April
Well we'll look forward to the test flight.
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Dave
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Cracks me up how people think it won't get off the ground.
You really think Airbus have spent eleventy billion developing it and not considered how it is going to fly
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Originally posted by Dom
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
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Originally posted by Swiftie
Fair plays in simulations it flies. Stick that in real conditions. & we'll see how far it copes. But so far so good.
FS2004 is used by many aviation institutions around the world now, including the RAF, the biggest flying schools...
It flies in FS2004 as long as the FDE is accurate, then it will fly identical in the real world.
the RAF have their own simulators and software - fair enough they may piss about with FS, but they sure dont use it to teach students.
Yes FS is pretty good, but its still all fixed numbers, and yes the data COULD be spot on, but in the real world things change - ie: size of aircraft in fly (yes it does change in flight, only mm's mind but concorde used to lengthen by 2"s during super-sonic) etc etc
im with swiftie on this though....especially considering FS is created by microshite, and i certainly wouldnt trust that shite to guard my life on transport
There are some air force's which have been using MS FS2004 exclusively through the initial training periods of new pilots. Its very realistic when built in to a full cockpit environment. As for aircraft stretching during flight, only the TU144 and Concorde have ever been known to stretch by considerable amounts. Concorde used to stretch by about 6inches duing flight, simply from heat expansion on the outer skin. Subsonic aircraft do not stretch at all, simply because the heat created from air resistance is less than 100 degrees celsius on the nose.
The fact that Microsoft make Flight Simulator doesnt make it bad, The bods who create flight simulator actually have there own office building in Seattle i think. Whats wrong with Microsoft anyway? There isnt anything better yet... Linux is for programming geeks.
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Dom
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Originally posted by CorsaDave
Cracks me up how people think it won't get off the ground.
You really think Airbus have spent eleventy billion developing it and not considered how it is going to fly
you'll be suprised how much companies do spend on projects to then find that it doesnt work, or doesnt do what the design brief stated etc etc
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by CorsaDave
Cracks me up how people think it won't get off the ground.
You really think Airbus have spent eleventy billion developing it and not considered how it is going to fly
Exactililiy its been through so many wind tunnel tests its not funny
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Originally posted by Jambo
look at it next to the 74 its a dwarf!
perspective. it's not that much longer IIRC
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Cybermonkey
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thats right vibs, in length, it is about the same as the A340-600 and 777-300ER, but for sheer dimensions it whoops ass in both wingspan and wing area, and also in height.
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