nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Steve
no iv already said its not ok, but considering i have to drive its unavoidable, but smoking is 
im not sure why this is so har dto understand 
welkl stop contradicting yourself by saying it no ok 100% but then because you so called need to it is ok?
people lived and worked before cars,one of my grandads never drove yet he had a full and happy life 
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Steve
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there is also a fact that for every ten years you smoke on average you lose 5 years off your lifespan
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Rebecca
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I went out last night and made the most of it.
I can understand it from the other point of view because i was a quitter for two years and I hated coming home smelling of smoke.
To be honest I think I'll just quit.
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Steve
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Steve
no iv already said its not ok, but considering i have to drive its unavoidable, but smoking is
im not sure why this is so har dto understand
welkl stop contradicting yourself by saying it no ok 100% but then because you so called need to it is ok?
people lived and worked before cars,one of my grandads never drove yet he had a full and happy life
times change
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nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
who sits next to your exhaust with a pint breathing in the fumes 
so you dont breath fumes in while walking round town ?
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Robin
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Originally posted by Steve
no iv already said its not ok, but considering i have to drive its unavoidable, but smoking is
So is drink driving, the police don't do a very good job there, do they?
They seem intent on spending money employing people to go round and waggle their finger at smokers, but not attempt to catch people who could potentially kill a whole family/train load of people after having a few and driving home.
Priorities are all wrong.
Binge drinking and the effects from it cost the NHS far more money than smoking, drug taking is a bigger problem, I'm sure you've been threatened by a pilled up nobend?
Smoking is near the bottom of the pile of evils in the country which need sorting.
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Steve
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goto google images and search smokers lungs there is no smokers lung image appears that looks unaffected by smoking
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Robin
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Originally posted by Steve
there is also a fact that for every ten years you smoke on average you lose 5 years off your lifespan
LOL.
Fact eh?
My grandma is 85, she smoked for 30 years.
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topshot_2k
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Originally posted by Robin
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Originally posted by Steve
no iv already said its not ok, but considering i have to drive its unavoidable, but smoking is
So is drink driving, the police don't do a very good job there, do they?
They seem intent on spending money employing people to go round and waggle their finger at smokers, but not attempt to catch people who could potentially kill a whole family/train load of people after having a few and driving home.
Priorities are all wrong.
Binge drinking and the effects from it cost the NHS far more money than smoking, drug taking is a bigger problem, I'm sure you've been threatened by a pilled up nobend?
Smoking is near the bottom of the pile of evils in the country which need sorting.
thats not true, more money is spent on terminally ill smokers than binge drinkers.
Drinkers may cause more A&E cases but smokers need long term support an drugs.
[Edited on 01-07-2007 by topshot_2k]
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Steve
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Originally posted by Robin
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Originally posted by Steve
there is also a fact that for every ten years you smoke on average you lose 5 years off your lifespan
LOL.
Fact eh?
My grandma is 85, she smoked for 30 years.
iv highlighted the key word, also when your nan goes whats to say she may not have lived a deal longer had she not smoked?
[Edited on 01-07-2007 by Steve]
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Robin
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Well, she'd be in for a bloody good innings if that's the case Steve, agreed
[Edited on 01-07-2007 by Robin]
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
Drinkers may cause more A&E cases but smokers need long term support an drugs.
Some.
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nova_gteuk
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according to the goverment national statistic's the average age women live to is 72.3 years,so his grans smaoked 30 years and seems to be still going well for smoking a killer substance.lookslike she's doing well
and considering the average death rate is 72.3,three of my grandparents died due to smoking all in their 8os so the average rate of a non smoker is in their 70's yet my grandparents who died from smoking all lived in to their late 80s ?
[Edited on 01-07-2007 by nova_gteuk]
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Rebecca
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This argument can never be won....
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Hammer
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I've just skim read but are people actually sticking up for smokers rights here 
If you choose to smoke surely it's not too much to ask to stand outside so not to pollute the people that choose not to smoke?
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topshot_2k
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quote:
Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
who sits next to your exhaust with a pint breathing in the fumes
so you dont breath fumes in while walking round town ?
i dont sit in a room with it though
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Robin
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Jut to clear up, I don't disagree that smoking is bad, I know it is, but there are other bad things too which need addressing, I don't think that's debatable really.
The ban is good in places where you eat, definitely, and the chances are it's not a bad thing in pubs, it won't affect me, so whatever, it's fine, I don't really care.
I don't honestly know why I'm arguing, the ban is there, some people are happy, some aren't, so it's not going to get anywhere
If it's going to prevent some people getting cancer and ending up in a coffin, then it's good
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nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
who sits next to your exhaust with a pint breathing in the fumes
so you dont breath fumes in while walking round town ?
i dont sit in a room with it though
so gases which travel through the air all of a sudden stop travelling because of a door?
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Hammer
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Smoking isn't banned though they've just been told to do it in their own air space, it isn't even an issue up here anymore it's just a given.
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Steve
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exhaust fumes will be much much more diluted than a room full of cigarette smoke
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craig_s
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i don't think that people should be allowed to smoke around other non-smokers i.e. in pubs and stuff but the ban is not going to stop this.i know of a couple of pubs where there will be a bouncer on the door and people that are not regulars or have a problem with people smoking in there will not be allowed in.as the landlords know they will get just as much business from the local smokers.
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LeeM
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hows passive smoking worse than actual smoking? the smoker inhales the smoke from the air and the smoke from the fag?
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Hammer
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Originally posted by sri power
i don't think that people should be allowed to smoke around other non-smokers i.e. in pubs and stuff but the ban is not going to stop this.i know of a couple of pubs where there will be a bouncer on the door and people that are not regulars or have a problem with people smoking in there will not be allowed in.as the landlords know they will get just as much business from the local smokers.
Won't get away with it believe me, there is zero tolerance.
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Steve
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Originally posted by lee_wee
hows passive smoking worse than actual smoking? the smoker inhales the smoke from the air and the smoke from the fag?
the smoke a person inahles from a fag is filter in the filter at the base of the cigarette in some form, also iirc when the smoke is exhaled the body processes it in some way that makes it more toxic
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Nath
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Smoke ban = 
Fucking hate the smell.
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