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i agree, walk away.
i think people who go out and start fights or get involved for whatever reason are pathetic. need to grow up
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CorsAsh
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I've never started a fight, been attacked a couple of times, defended myself and got the hell out of there, then called the Police. This honourable yob mentality is such bollocks.
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Nath
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Hammer
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I can't believe this is the same forum that some con artist ripped off several members and not one had the testicles to go to his door even though they had his address 
Have a go E-Warriors FTW
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Marc
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
So it was a post to look hard then?
His name sounds very scary and intimidating to me. I'd hate to be served by him in McDonalds. 
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ed
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A few people have said it's not easy to walk away from a fight. That's true, you might need to run, get in a car and drive off or even jump on a bus  Saying that, it's easy not to get into any trouble at all, not sure where all these people are going to get into all this grief 
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John
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I don't believe somebody who says 'asshole' and 'pile of dog dirt' is capable of getting anywhere near a situation they can get done for gbh tbh.
I'm calling internet warrior trying to gain some e-penis inches.
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Jules
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[b[Originally posted by nova_gteuk
So youd phone the police over a fight in a pub?
Says it all really,its hardly danger its a drunken scuffle in a pub
Where did I say that I'd phone the police over a drunken pub scuffle? I said if I thought that I was in danger, and yes I would - that's what I pay the police's wages for.
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
And yes im sure its common sense to walk away,but walking away in some cases makes matters worse,what happens when they see you out next time, its obvious theyd pick on you all over again then youd walk away like a coward till they see you again.
If you stand your ground to people like that most would leave you alone in future.
So in *some* cases it makes matters worse?
If you stand your ground *most* would leave you alone in future?
And what about the times it *does* make it worse, what about the *minorty* of times they don't leave you alone in the future?
You stand up and fight like a big hard man, get a criminal record and end up working at Royal Fail / McDonalds - I'd rather keep my nose clean and enjoy the benefits of a good future.
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Walking away from problems just causes more,you been listening to the police too much,its not that easy to walk away from a fight in the real world.
Whoa there hard man - you changed your mind pretty damn quick!
Now walking away definetly does cause problem? A second ago it was only in some cases - now it seems to be all?
So which one is it?
Please make your mind up before trying to have a input - at least know what your own stance is first!
Oh and what is this "real world" you talk about? It's obviously some kind of existance you live in and I don't?
Sunshine, I've been in my fair share of scrapes over the course of my life and I've prevented more than my fair share, and the one's I've prevented I've been thanked for a few days later - I prefer my "real world" to your fucked up vigilante one tbh.
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Im just glad our not one of my freinds.my freinds would back me up not run away.
So am I glad I'm not one of your friends, or there's a chance I might stop you getting a pasting at some point down the line, I wouldn't want to ruin your hardman image you have on a internet forums or possibly, maybe, almost certainly/definetly make things worse for your future employment at McDonalds / Royal Mail
[Edited on 21-06-2008 by Jules]
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Originally posted by joes_1.4_16v_sport
I was acting in defence of my mate who i thought was gonna get bottled. He's finished hitting him + then i've gone over and slapped him around about 3- 4 times + then got sent to the back of the meat wagon.
[Edited on 20-06-2008 by joes_1.4_16v_sport]
You can't claim that you're defending your mate if he's gone over, finished hitting him and then you've got involved. Also the cut must have been a nasty one for section 20 to be charged. At the end of the day if people choose to get involved in these sort of feuds and insist on sorting them out themselves then this is the risk they take on both sides. Having said that I don't agree with people who say they wouldn't intervene if a mate was getting a shoeing and the law allows adequate protection for this. I think you've seen an opportunity to give the lad a slap and taken it. Fair enough you took your chance and got caught, now just take whatever punishment you get given without complaining and put it behind you.
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James_DT
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Originally posted by Jules
If this lad threw a bottle at him and his mates and didn't hurt anyone - which it didn't seem to - and his mate went over to "sort him out", you're telling me that 99.9% of people on here should all go over there and give him a shoe'ing and that is what "true friends" do?
Bollocks, a true friend would of stopped his mate going over there to start on him, therefor adverting trouble and violence - that is the sign of a true friend, seeing the bigger picture, thinking of things for their friends own good and taking preventative action - remember, it takes a bigger man to walk away, going over like you did you just lowered yourself to his level.
Agreed. I'd try and stop my mates, but if they were hell bent on starting a fight I'd leave them to it. Yes, his mate had a bottle thrown at him, but he didn't NEED to retaliate. He could have walked away. I don't see it as defending a mate if that mate went over to start the fight anyway.
I guess walking away doesn't make you look 'ard, eh?
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Carl
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Originally posted by Jules
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[b[Originally posted by nova_gteuk
I wouldn't want to ruin your hardman image you have on a internet forums
[Edited on 21-06-2008 by Jules]
The only image he has is one of a fuckwit tbf.
woooow i'm on the bandwagon. 
defending a mate, and going over to someone when your mate has stopped hitting them are two totally different things.
[Edited on 21-06-2008 by Carl]
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Originally posted by little_duke
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Originally posted by Planty02
People end up dead with this kind of attitude
disagree - if you show them your weak and walk away completely then they know they can do it when they please!
You must live amongst utter scum then. If there can be a civil end to a dispute, then use it. All piling into a fight to show you're "hard"...One moment of coolness infront of mates may see you in jail, or dead.
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And this thread in general....Has most people actually read it? Fair enough, if a mate is in trouble, you would generally try to help them....But AFTER his mate has gave the lad a kicking he gave him a few hits...Are you all fucking stupid? Is that what you do?! If so, then I sincerely hope you get fucked over in court, along with this lad.
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mattk
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on the very few occasions anyone has given me "shit" Ive told them to fuck off and grow up or just said yeah you know what ok.... sorry mate,
that normally works enough, Ive never felt the need to slap someone about a bit
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nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Carl
The only image he has is one of a fuckwit tbf.
woooow i'm on the bandwagon.
defending a mate, and going over to someone when your mate has stopped hitting them are two totally different things.
I know i must be a total fuckwit.
Somone throws a glass bottle at my mate, then batter hims and im supposed to stand there and say and do nothing.im sorry thats not whats mates do.
Fighting may not be the answer but its the onlyn launguage people like that understand.
All i can say is thank fuck i dont have freinds like you lot.
Anyway ive had enough arguing,If you all think its ok for people to throw bottles at your mates and batter them and you just stand there...thats your problem.
And if you all wont to be picked on by everyone all the time by walking away thats up to you.
Im glad ive never been in that situation and i doubt i ever would everyones to scared of one of my mates but even so being 14 stone and 6ft3 has its advantages
anyway peace out last comment on the siuation.
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J da Silva
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
So it was a post to look hard then?
Have to agree, from the time it occurred to the time this was posted, surely advice from a solicitor or anyone who he dealt with in law terms would have sufficed, plus going on snippets of knowledge he may already have on it.
After all that it leaves me thinking it's either an offence on a minor or make believe.
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John
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Originally posted by John
I don't believe somebody who says 'asshole' and 'pile of dog dirt' is capable of getting anywhere near a situation they can get done for gbh tbh.
I'm calling internet warrior trying to gain some e-penis inches.
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Eck
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Carl
The only image he has is one of a fuckwit tbf.
woooow i'm on the bandwagon.
defending a mate, and going over to someone when your mate has stopped hitting them are two totally different things.
I know i must be a total fuckwit.
Somone throws a glass bottle at my mate, then batter hims and im supposed to stand there and say and do nothing.im sorry thats not whats mates do.
Fighting may not be the answer but its the onlyn launguage people like that understand.
All i can say is thank fuck i dont have freinds like you lot.
Anyway ive had enough arguing,If you all think its ok for people to throw bottles at your mates and batter them and you just stand there...thats your problem.
And if you all wont to be picked on by everyone all the time by walking away thats up to you.
Im glad ive never been in that situation and i doubt i ever would everyones to scared of one of my mates but even so being 14 stone and 6ft3 has its advantages
anyway peace out last comment on the siuation.
Dude, I'm not sure, but I think you've got this wrong. The guy threw the glass bottle at his mate, his mate then kicked him in...With what you said there, do you think his mate avoided the bottle, but got beaten up anyway? The lad took his medicine, then got a few cheap digs from a coward.
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J da Silva
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Every situation is different, there will be some times where you can't walk away because your cornered or whatever, you do what you have to do, but the macho thing where you bring it on yourself or you start rivalries can get out of hand in the long run, I'm a fierce person when I need to be but I wouldn't dream of doing anything off my own back not for my own safety but for the people I circle with, when you deal with fragile people you have to prepare for something unusual to happen like a brick through the window for example, would you want it on your concience if you beat some kid up and then he put a petrol bomb through your families letterbox?
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Jules
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Originally posted by Eck
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Carl
The only image he has is one of a fuckwit tbf.
woooow i'm on the bandwagon.
defending a mate, and going over to someone when your mate has stopped hitting them are two totally different things.
I know i must be a total fuckwit.
Somone throws a glass bottle at my mate, then batter hims and im supposed to stand there and say and do nothing.im sorry thats not whats mates do.
Fighting may not be the answer but its the onlyn launguage people like that understand.
All i can say is thank fuck i dont have freinds like you lot.
Anyway ive had enough arguing,If you all think its ok for people to throw bottles at your mates and batter them and you just stand there...thats your problem.
And if you all wont to be picked on by everyone all the time by walking away thats up to you.
Im glad ive never been in that situation and i doubt i ever would everyones to scared of one of my mates but even so being 14 stone and 6ft3 has its advantages
anyway peace out last comment on the siuation.
Dude, I'm not sure, but I think you've got this wrong. The guy threw the glass bottle at his mate, his mate then kicked him in...With what you said there, do you think his mate avoided the bottle, but got beaten up anyway? The lad took his medicine, then got a few cheap digs from a coward.
That's how I also read it Eck, the original poster and his mates were in a group, someone who they/he has history with threw a bottle at them (no comments on if the bottle actually hit and hurt anyone), so the original posters mate went over with some mates and gave the other lad(s) a shoe'ing, then the original poster went over to give his 2p's worth once the work had been done.
So it's not like the original poster and his mates were set upon, yes the other lad was wrong to throw the bottle in the first place but by going over mob handed and getting their licks in was 1) overkill and 2) lowering themselves, and for that they/he are hopefully going to pay the penalty for it.
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Russ
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everyone on here is a hardman even little duke 
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Carl
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quote:
Originally posted by Jules
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Originally posted by Eck
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Carl
The only image he has is one of a fuckwit tbf.
woooow i'm on the bandwagon.
defending a mate, and going over to someone when your mate has stopped hitting them are two totally different things.
I know i must be a total fuckwit.
Somone throws a glass bottle at my mate, then batter hims and im supposed to stand there and say and do nothing.im sorry thats not whats mates do.
Fighting may not be the answer but its the onlyn launguage people like that understand.
All i can say is thank fuck i dont have freinds like you lot.
Anyway ive had enough arguing,If you all think its ok for people to throw bottles at your mates and batter them and you just stand there...thats your problem.
And if you all wont to be picked on by everyone all the time by walking away thats up to you.
Im glad ive never been in that situation and i doubt i ever would everyones to scared of one of my mates but even so being 14 stone and 6ft3 has its advantages
anyway peace out last comment on the siuation.
Dude, I'm not sure, but I think you've got this wrong. The guy threw the glass bottle at his mate, his mate then kicked him in...With what you said there, do you think his mate avoided the bottle, but got beaten up anyway? The lad took his medicine, then got a few cheap digs from a coward.
That's how I also read it Eck, .
Same here, the ability to read must be learnt on the bandwagon it seems.
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CorsAsh
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Originally posted by Russ
everyone on here is a hardman even little duke
You make me hard.
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J da Silva
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Dont agree with me duke you will be outcasted
The end of the day anyone whos a true freind would do anything for their freinds.
even if i got sent to proison for defending a mate id always know id done the right thing and prison wouldnt bother me if id done the right thing.
Police go on and on about restraining people or walking away its not that easy in the "real" world.
And especially if somones going at your mate with a glass,id kick off without a doubt.
But aslong as it remained one on one with no weapons i wouldnt but in,if he was getting the better of my mate id break it up like im sure the other freinds would.
So you've done the right thing? Yet it lands you in prison, that's a right injustice then isn't it?
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