Cole
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Bottas and maldonado confirmed as William line up next yr will probably see Senna in a force India I would expect
[Edited on 28-11-2012 by Cole]
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Rob_Quads
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Sounds like there may be some investigations to the yellow light overtake of Vettell....
IF he is charged with overtaking under yellows he gets a 20 seconds penalty which would mean loosing the championship by 1 point!
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Daniel_Corsa
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Not the yellow flag on Pic an earlier incident on lap 4 only shown on board Vettel car.
Video HERE
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Rob_Quads
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All comes down to where there was a guy waving a green flag at the end of the pits.
If there was case closed.
If there wasn't they are going to struggle not not penalise him.
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JonnyJ
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They'll make up some shite to make it legit. It'd be a bit of an embarrassment for the FIA to have to name Alonso champion now. The organisation is bent as fuck so don't be surprised if they draw up some technicality that keeps Vettel champ.
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Daniel_Corsa
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Bernie is too friendly with Vettel to let it happen.
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Robin
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I think it's just been dismissed by the FIA
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Scotty_B
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I think it's just been dismissed by the FIA
Pity
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Rob_Quads
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Would be much simpler if they just had lights and got rid of the flags. Much clearer, computer controlled so can be logged.
Can then be linked to the cars GPS - any overtaking in yellows instantly flagged to stewards etc
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
They'll make up some shite to make it legit. It'd be a bit of an embarrassment for the FIA to have to name Alonso champion now. The organisation is bent as fuck so don't be surprised if they draw up some technicality that keeps Vettel champ.
For once i agree!
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Jamie Walby
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20540952
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Dom
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Autosport - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104644 and http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104645
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Dom
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(Rumour) Ross Brawn Back to Ferrari
Source - http://www.blogf1.it/2012/11/29/per-brawn-si-profila-un-clamoroso-ritorno-in-ferrari/ (Italian)
Can't see this happening even if Merc have punting Brawn to the side a little.
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JonnyJ
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
They'll make up some shite to make it legit. It'd be a bit of an embarrassment for the FIA to have to name Alonso champion now. The organisation is bent as fuck so don't be surprised if they draw up some technicality that keeps Vettel champ.
For once i agree!
You'll come round to my way of thinking eventually Dom. One day.
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Dom
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Autosports 2012 Awards -
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British Club Driver of the Year Award: Scott Malvern
National Driver of the Year Award: Gordon Shedden
1st Pioneering and Innovation Award: FIA medical team, acknowledging the remarkable work of Professor Sid Watkins
2nd Pioneering and Innovation Award: Nissan DeltaWing
1st John Bolster Award for Technical Excellence: Peter Sauber
2nd John Bolster Award for Technical Excellence: Bob Dance
Rally Car of the Year: Citroen DS3 WRC
Rookie of the Year Award: Matheo Tuscher
British Competition Driver: Jenson Button
Racing Car of the Year: Red Bull RB8
International Racing Driver: Sebastian Vettel
http://awards.autosport.com/2012-winners/
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Great driver
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Aaron
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Can't see Hamilton on that list 
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JonnyJ
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Of course he's not there, its based on a reader vote and the British public love a nice loser as opposed to a confident winner.
HTH 
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spencer88
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quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
Of course he's not there, its based on a reader vote and the British public love a nice loser as opposed to a confident winner.
HTH
Button finished the series 2 points behind Lewis! Harldy a night and day difference 
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JonnyJ
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Ok mate
If thats how you want to judge the season so be it. Lewis had some awful luck and got taken out of winning positions on at least 3 occasions through no fault of his own, you could argue 4 times if you include Malaysia.
Tell me, why do you always hear drivers like Vettel and Alonso, talk about how lewis is one of the fastest drivers they respect the most and yet you never hear them talk about Jenson?
Lewis had the 2nd most race wins this season (should have been the most but for awful luck and that includes of you give Vettel his win in Valencia where he also suffered bad luck)
He had the most poles of anyone this season.
He made the least mistakes of anyone last season.
It was probably his most impressive season so far and Jensons least for McLaren.
Alonso finished behind Vettel this season, yet nearly everyone agrees he was the better driver odd that, if points mean everything...
[Edited on 04-12-2012 by JonnyJ]
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spencer88
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quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
Ok mate
If thats how you want to judge the season so be it. Lewis had some awful luck and got taken out of winning positions on at least 3 occasions through no fault of his own, you could argue 4 times if you include Malaysia.
Tell me, why do you always hear drivers like Vettel and Alonso, talk about how lewis is one of the fastest drivers they respect the most and yet you never hear them talk about Jenson?
Lewis had the 2nd most race wins this season (should have been the most but for awful luck and that includes of you give Vettel his win in Valencia where he also suffered bad luck)
He had the most poles of anyone this season.
He made the least mistakes of anyone last season.
It was probably his most impressive season so far and Jensons least for McLaren.
Alonso finished behind Vettel this season, yet nearly everyone agrees he was the better driver odd that, if points mean everything...
[Edited on 04-12-2012 by JonnyJ]
Think you missed the point.
Button is not a 'loser' if he finished a mere 2 points behind Lewis. Everyone has bad luck at times, it is how you deal with it and progress from it.
Regarding Alonso, he may be a better driver, doesn't mean he gets to win the title based on that.
I may consider myself better looking than Brad Pitt, doesn't mean I get to fuck Angelina Jolie.
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Ben G
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button was happy to sit in the middle of the pack and take 8th places. hamilton was always gunning for victory.
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JonnyJ
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Ben more or less gets what I meant. People like button because he's a "nice guy" who gives out a bit of ""bantz" but ultimately he's a guy that's happy to "do alright" in races. For some reason the British public love that kind of attitude as opposed to Hamilton who isn't happy unless he's winning and wears his heart on his sleeve. Hamiltons attitude is why he's so respected by people such as Alonso, because he's a winner and he'll risk just about anything to win, very senna like. The British public however don't like that for some reason, because he doesn't come out and have some top bantz with Jake Humphrey or celebrate a 2nd like its a win they think he's a moody cunt.
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Ben G
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i think the british public see it as arrogance rather than a amazing hunger an desire to finish 1st in every race.
button is no doubt a great driver, but when you care more about collecting points than racing for victory, the sport becomes very boring.
i've been gutted by hamiltons lack of luck this season but also been very impressed with the fact he doesn't care if he loses the points, he just wants to win all the time.
button doesn't seem to have that same desire. he's a team player kind of 2nd fiddle guy, rather than a balls out insane passionate driver that wants to take victory each and every race.
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Ben G
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also, whats this bantz word about you sound like an arsenal fan, abbreviating and shortening everything.
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