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Originally posted by Jules S
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Originally posted by bubblevaux
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Originally posted by Jules S
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Originally posted by bubblevaux
the lad with downs "presumably" goes for the kid because the kid was making noise as the downs dude was on his phone, this pissed the downs dude off so he went for the kid.

wether the bloke has downs, was in a wheelchair, had one arm, or one leg, or was blind or whatever, if that was my kid, he would have still got a beating.

and if he is ill enough to have his actions defended, then he shouldnt be out where he is a danger to himself or others.

as for assessing the situation, bollocks.

the kid clearly isnt on the floor blarting his head out-its the principle. touch my kid, ill knock you the fuck out


So what exactly would you feel/do if your kid had downs syndrome and somebody twated your kid out of sheer ignorance like you then heh?


ur telling me he got twatted out of sheer ignorance? he kicked the kid.


and to whoever above, if my kid fell over and hurt himself of course id pay attention, the fact is if someone hit my kid, id have them.

lets look at it another way-the downs bloke kicks a kid, and the father does nothing about it. downs bloke thinks now its ok to do it again.

seriously, jump on the bandwagon and fuck off. dont try and make other people feel bad for expressing what theyd do.

its like a dog going for a baby-dog may not know better, but 99% of people would go after the dog. its instinct.


Yep, I presumed as much..talking to you is like trying to educate pork.

The person in the clip is a person with Downs syndrome, hop off your high horse and do some research on the affliction before posting your opinionated rubbish on the interweb.


are you unable to read?

or just challenged?

yes the person in the clip may have downs syndrome, but which variant? trisomy? mosaicism?

as i said above, more than likely , based on the fact that he can walk whilst using a mobile phone indicates that he doesnt suffer with learning difficulties, so more than likely has trisomy ds. so if this is the case, he is more than capable of knowing EXACTLY what he is doing, trisomy ds affect muscle growth hence why you see ds sufferers with facial features not like non ds sufferers.

you are quick to point he HAS ds, but how do we know? are you assuming he has ds because of his looks? maybe he has a muscle deficiency which is also a cell based disability? your all judging he has ds, and everyone apart from novagte has picked up on this, you think because he has DS he has mental health issues etc-well your wrong. not all DS suffererers have learning problems etc.

so jules, before you try and crack off about not being able to talk to me, read what i say.

go look up trisomy ds somewhere and understand what im saying.
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29th Oct 08 at 00:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Not all is? My cousin has it ive grown up with him so i know quite a lot about it.

My cousin works does most things normal people would yet he still has problems and still needs specialist care.and has to have his parents help him with everything.

If he wasnt a ds suferer,i still wouldnt KO him in front of my child.

and id still check my child was ok first before confronting him.


good! my stepmum looks after ds sufferers, and terminally ill kids full time-hence why she has just been telling me all about the different variations. she watched that video and said he probably has trisomy ds thats why he knows what he is doing.
out of interest, your cousin, is he mosaicism ds?
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he might be a normal bloke who wasnt blessed with good looks
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Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
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Originally posted by bubblevaux
the lad with downs "presumably" goes for the kid because the kid was making noise as the downs dude was on his phone, this pissed the downs dude off so he went for the kid.

wether the bloke has downs, was in a wheelchair, had one arm, or one leg, or was blind or whatever, if that was my kid, he would have still got a beating.

and if he is ill enough to have his actions defended, then he shouldnt be out where he is a danger to himself or others.

as for assessing the situation, bollocks.

the kid clearly isnt on the floor blarting his head out-its the principle. touch my kid, ill knock you the fuck out


hope you never buy your kid a hamster, as one wrong nip to your child and no doubt its going to get its brains splatered all over its cage, as some one/thing hurts your child so you lash out with full force as youve stated theres no time to assess the situation so i guess you would kill it without thought.

thats nice hope you never buy your child a small pet.


a hamster in a cage is not another person in society though u tit.

before making stupid comparisons grow up.

would u not hit out at somebody who hit your kid?

do u not have any older siblings who lashed out at someone when they tried to hit you?

what if you were a kid, and some bloke kicked you and your dad gave you a big hug, would you feel all fuzzy, or would you be thinkin "hold on dad, that bloke just hit me, and you did nothing to him?"



[Edited on 29-10-2008 by bubblevaux]
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29th Oct 08 at 00:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My cousin works,goes drinking does everything a normal person does yet he still has mental health problems.

Just because he can walk an talk on a mobile phone doesnt mean he doesnt suffer from it though?

Both Variants have mental health problems though?
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29th Oct 08 at 00:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
good! my stepmum looks after ds sufferers, and terminally ill kids full time-hence why she has just been telling me all about the different variations. she watched that video and said he probably has trisomy ds thats why he knows what he is doing.
out of interest, your cousin, is he mosaicism ds?


He has triosomy,(would of said earlier just had no idea how to spell it.lol)

he works in tesco someone supervises him at all times.

And i can personally say if somone ever hit my cousin like that id put him in a wheelchair,he has enough to deal with in life without dickheads like that.

That guy clearly doesnt care much about his kid because he didnt check on his child.

I bet if somone without ds hit his child i doubt hed be smacking that person.

End of the day i dont car what level of ds he has etc.

You dont hit someone like that full stop.


[Edited on 29-10-2008 by nova_gteuk]
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
My cousin works,goes drinking does everything a normal person does yet he still has mental health problems.

Just because he can walk an talk on a mobile phone doesnt mean he doesnt suffer from it though?

Both Variants have mental health problems though?


nope. there are 3 variants,but trisomy and mosaicism are most common. with trisomy come further different variants, all dependant on nature and nuture. how you are raised can affect it, who you socialise with can affect what you can do, wether it be normally or a bit slower.

you tend to find that trisomy21 sufferers can be completely 100% "normal" (i hate using that word) apart from facial featuresm and ears etc. the majority of ds sufferers have heart problems, so to hear your cousin drinking probably means that he doesnt suffer with heart irregularities due to muscle weakness.

iv just asked me step mum to wathc the vid again and she is convinced that they guy has trisomy21 because he is walking and talking on a phone, and his reactions to the kid coming on screen, and the fact that he is able to lash out pretty quick are indicators he is trisomy21 and in control of himself.

what mental health issues does he have if you dont mind me asking? is it slow learning issues or speech impediments etc?
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i never thought id say this to anyone online but bubblevaux, you are a fucking cock.


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quote:
Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
the lad with downs "presumably" goes for the kid because the kid was making noise as the downs dude was on his phone, this pissed the downs dude off so he went for the kid.

wether the bloke has downs, was in a wheelchair, had one arm, or one leg, or was blind or whatever, if that was my kid, he would have still got a beating.

and if he is ill enough to have his actions defended, then he shouldnt be out where he is a danger to himself or others.

as for assessing the situation, bollocks.

the kid clearly isnt on the floor blarting his head out-its the principle. touch my kid, ill knock you the fuck out


hope you never buy your kid a hamster, as one wrong nip to your child and no doubt its going to get its brains splatered all over its cage, as some one/thing hurts your child so you lash out with full force as youve stated theres no time to assess the situation so i guess you would kill it without thought.

thats nice hope you never buy your child a small pet.

this guy speaks alot of sence!!!
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what if the person we are presuming to be dad hadnt gone for the guy? might he have carried on kicking or whatever?

Id love to say i would understand the guy is ill or whatever but chances are the only information i would make the decission on is some stranger kicking my child. Christ from that short clip you dont even know if the 'dad' knows the guy has downs! Far too many what ifs for anyone to make any judgments in my opinion!!
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Originally posted by Adam_B
what if the person we are presuming to be dad hadnt gone for the guy? might he have carried on kicking or whatever?



we are saying ko'ing him isnt right, make him shit himself maybe and a push. but not a fucking ko punch. imagen how his mum felt (if it was his mum), seeing you ds kid getting knocked out and you can do anything because its a wannabe gangster!
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i never thought id say this to anyone online but bubblevaux, you are a fucking cock.





mobby tbh, iv read way to many threads where you have butted in and bein flamed. the xaos thread for one, and countless others.

your opinion is nulled.

thanks for your input and goodbye
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really, can you afford a Lamborghini?
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Mobby, go and be thick elsewhere.
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actually, no mobby question for ya?

if a lad wearing a balaclava keyed your car right in front of you, would u tcut it out, or go fucking ape shit on the lad?

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actually, no mobby question for ya?

if a lad wearing a balaclava keyed your car right in front of you, would u tcut it out, or go fucking ape shit on the lad?




completely different!!!!
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he might be a normal bloke who wasnt blessed with good looks

you cant be serious after posting this you prat
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Originally posted by bubblevaux
actually, no mobby question for ya?

if a lad wearing a balaclava keyed your car right in front of you, would u tcut it out, or go fucking ape shit on the lad?




He'd try and spray it but make a piss poor job
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quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
what mental health issues does he have if you dont mind me asking? is it slow learning issues or speech impediments etc?


All i know is he has shedloads of physical things wrong with him physically reagrding his heart hearing and epilepsy etc.

But mentally he has the mind of a child,it can take him a while to grasp things.He wore nappys till he was like 14 etc.(anyone laughs at that their sick)he has a range of problems.

But i will say one thing i wouldmnt have him any other way,most people love him,most hot girls do and its not because thay pity him etc its because hes such a nice guy.In school he had a crush on Katherine Jenkins,(she went to my school) and he still does lol
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quote:
Originally posted by mattfiesta
quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
actually, no mobby question for ya?

if a lad wearing a balaclava keyed your car right in front of you, would u tcut it out, or go fucking ape shit on the lad?




He'd try and spray it but make a piss poor job

you own a fiesta......
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Im not contradicting anything.

I dont have children to be responsible in front off that guy does?

In that situation i would of checked the child first,then had a word and probably called the police as the guy needs someone looking after him.

And i would never hit a person with mental health problems.

Hitting some clown who thinks its big to hit someone with down syndrome on the other hand id smash them up

You really can't say what YOU would do in that situation as you aren't a father and secondly you haven't been in that situation. You may think you'll act in a certain way but when the situation arises all natural instincts etc may go out of the window and you do something you thought you'd never do. Maybe just like the guy in the video
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Originally posted by mobby
really, can you afford a Lamborghini?


can i afford to buy one right now with inheritance money?

not in the current credit crunch.

but your telling me that i would kill a hamster because it bit my son, because i would defend my child being kicked by a grown man, who because he has a facial disfigurement we all assume he has ds?


mobby, seriously jog on.

even people who dont agree with me are telling you to do one.
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Originally posted by mobby
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Originally posted by Adam_B
what if the person we are presuming to be dad hadnt gone for the guy? might he have carried on kicking or whatever?



we are saying ko'ing him isnt right, make him shit himself maybe and a push. but not a fucking ko punch. imagen how his mum felt (if it was his mum), seeing you ds kid getting knocked out and you can do anything because its a wannabe gangster!

and differnt people react in different ways. Its not right to go in that hard, but what im saying is nobody here knows how much information the dad has before making that decission.
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
quote:
Originally posted by mobby
quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
what if the person we are presuming to be dad hadnt gone for the guy? might he have carried on kicking or whatever?



we are saying ko'ing him isnt right, make him shit himself maybe and a push. but not a fucking ko punch. imagen how his mum felt (if it was his mum), seeing you ds kid getting knocked out and you can do anything because its a wannabe gangster!

Its not right to go in that hard, but what im saying is nobody here knows how much information the dad has before making that decission.

i agree with that
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quote:
Originally posted by mobby
quote:
Originally posted by mattfiesta
he might be a normal bloke who wasnt blessed with good looks

you cant be serious after posting this you prat


I was trying to lighten the mood in thread, you were just being abusive.

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