jay kay
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
WTF???? Killing INNOCENT people because of a military campaing is ok?
Why not fight the military or aim attacks at Governments not workers in packed fucking tower block or train.
And they wonder why all other religions Hate muslims 
They cant even get on with each other FFS
Topshot please dont speak for other people only yourself. You have shown how ignorant you are with that comment do you speak for all other religions in the world.? NO
I have friends who are christian jewish hindu coptic and even BUDDHIST not once have they said i hate your religion or questioned my beliefs.
so in future please only speak for yourself and no others
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Originally posted by C0rsa
oh FFS
Conspiracy sh1t.
I cant be @rsed with this anymore. The plane that hit the twin towers was VERY real ask the people who lost family there.
Thats the point not anything to do with Bush.
End of the day you cant argue as it seems violence towards the west is tolerable, but agaisnt them is not and yet they are all happy to settle here and except handouts, free care/security etc
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hack3tt
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Originally posted by micra_pete
as a outsider to cs threads like this look very bad from the outside. this isn't a debate.
agreed.
Im not going to say anything further.
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jay kay
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
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Originally posted by jay kay
bombing isnt the solution to anything as ive said before. Just gives the fanatics more ammo to charge up impressionable young muslims and send them to kill innocent people and tbh thats not what i want as an aftermathl.
YES im muslim and im proud of it but the middle east doesnt represent our whole religion. fanatical motherfuckers are present in every religion and cast a shadow over them.
If i can look at this situation objectively in a civilised manor then so should you. If i recall Dropping a bomb never made anything better ......
it has ended wars before
YES the onlytime it ended a war was the atomic bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki
the aftermath Millions dead, familes destroyed ,children orphaned ,peoples bodys burned badly for the rest of their lives , radiation poisoning.
was that worth the PRICE ?
i dont think so
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abdus
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Originally posted by C0rsa
oh FFS
Conspiracy sh1t.
I cant be @rsed with this anymore. The plane that hit the twin towers was VERY real ask the people who lost family there.
Thats the point not anything to do with Bush.
I said the PENTAGON
did you see?
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topshot_2k
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Originally posted by micra_pete
over 100,000 civilian Iraqis have died since the start of the conflict, 2,976 died in 9/11.
to argue who is killing innocents is flawed.
the terrorists always depend on who's side you are on.
if our country was invaded by occupying Muslims (doubt this would ever happen, but you'll get my point) would the uk people sit in our house and take it? or would we fight back?
i supported the original war on removing sadam from power btw.
also there are fanatical christians as well as muslims
as a outsider to cs threads like this look very bad from the outside. this isn't a debate.
and i bet the majority are from bombs or attacks by Muslims, i bet the figure who have died from UK fire power is a lot less
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abdus
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Originally posted by C0rsa
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Originally posted by micra_pete
as a outsider to cs threads like this look very bad from the outside. this isn't a debate.
agreed.
Im not going to say anything further.
bring some better arguments that will make me sway my opinion. I am not those that are deeply rooted in unfounded and ignorant arguments...If you can convince me, then I'll agree 
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topshot_2k
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Originally posted by jay kay
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
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Originally posted by jay kay
bombing isnt the solution to anything as ive said before. Just gives the fanatics more ammo to charge up impressionable young muslims and send them to kill innocent people and tbh thats not what i want as an aftermathl.
YES im muslim and im proud of it but the middle east doesnt represent our whole religion. fanatical motherfuckers are present in every religion and cast a shadow over them.
If i can look at this situation objectively in a civilised manor then so should you. If i recall Dropping a bomb never made anything better ......
it has ended wars before
YES the onlytime it ended a war was the atomic bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki
the aftermath Millions dead, familes destroyed ,children orphaned ,peoples bodys burned badly for the rest of their lives , radiation poisoning.
was that worth the PRICE ?
i dont think so
i think so, it saved US/UK lives, money etc
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jay kay
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
quote:
Originally posted by C0rsa
oh FFS
Conspiracy sh1t.
I cant be @rsed with this anymore. The plane that hit the twin towers was VERY real ask the people who lost family there.
Thats the point not anything to do with Bush.
End of the day you cant argue as it seems violence towards the west is tolerable, but agaisnt them is not and yet they are all happy to settle here and except handouts, free care/security etc
My grandparents were invited here in the 70's during the great brain drain when the taxes went so high people left to work elsewhere
The immigrants came to support the UK economy and now people like you turn around and say you take our free handouts 
Now my grandparents paid tax my whole family pays their taxes.
I DONT claim benefits, I pay for my prescriptions i pay taxes i pay for my university.
you have a very skewed view of the world
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hack3tt
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Originally posted by abdus
bring some better arguments that will make me sway my opinion. I am not those that are deeply rooted in unfounded and ignorant arguments...If you can convince me, then I'll agree
Fair enough.
But if you read all of my posts i haven't once said i agree nor disagree with your views. Just that there are 2 sides to this argument.
Good luck with the 'debate' though 
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topshot_2k
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so what about all the cheering muslims when the plane hit the towers?
suppose they are the 'minority' of muslims 
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abdus
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
quote:
Originally posted by micra_pete
over 100,000 civilian Iraqis have died since the start of the conflict, 2,976 died in 9/11.
to argue who is killing innocents is flawed.
the terrorists always depend on who's side you are on.
if our country was invaded by occupying Muslims (doubt this would ever happen, but you'll get my point) would the uk people sit in our house and take it? or would we fight back?
i supported the original war on removing sadam from power btw.
also there are fanatical christians as well as muslims
as a outsider to cs threads like this look very bad from the outside. this isn't a debate.
and i bet the majority are from bombs or attacks by Muslims, i bet the figure who have died from UK fire power is a lot less
and worse, the US air force kills British troops on the ground and some British see no problem in that that is war they say..killing allies forces..killing innocent soldiers
....same logic for the terrorists then?
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jay kay
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
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Originally posted by jay kay
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
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Originally posted by jay kay
bombing isnt the solution to anything as ive said before. Just gives the fanatics more ammo to charge up impressionable young muslims and send them to kill innocent people and tbh thats not what i want as an aftermathl.
YES im muslim and im proud of it but the middle east doesnt represent our whole religion. fanatical motherfuckers are present in every religion and cast a shadow over them.
If i can look at this situation objectively in a civilised manor then so should you. If i recall Dropping a bomb never made anything better ......
it has ended wars before
YES the onlytime it ended a war was the atomic bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki
the aftermath Millions dead, familes destroyed ,children orphaned ,peoples bodys burned badly for the rest of their lives , radiation poisoning.
was that worth the PRICE ?
i dont think so
i think so, it saved US/UK lives, money etc
then why was there not another atomic bomb used again.
you need a lesson in humanity only someone who has never experience or seen the devastation caused by something like this would say that.
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abdus
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Originally posted by jay kay
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
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Originally posted by C0rsa
oh FFS
Conspiracy sh1t.
I cant be @rsed with this anymore. The plane that hit the twin towers was VERY real ask the people who lost family there.
Thats the point not anything to do with Bush.
End of the day you cant argue as it seems violence towards the west is tolerable, but agaisnt them is not and yet they are all happy to settle here and except handouts, free care/security etc
My grandparents were invited here in the 70's during the great brain drain when the taxes went so high people left to work elsewhere
The immigrants came to support the UK economy and now people like you turn around and say you take our free handouts
Now my grandparents paid tax my whole family pays their taxes.
I DONT claim benefits, I pay for my prescriptions i pay taxes i pay for my university.
you have a very skewed view of the world
he actually lives is a complete opposite world
Who started the Immigration effect? You invaded other countries? History will tell you about the 'British Empire' that some were trying to build
What goes around comes around...
[Edited on 30-03-2007 by abdus]
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topshot_2k
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quote:
Originally posted by jay kay
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
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Originally posted by C0rsa
oh FFS
Conspiracy sh1t.
I cant be @rsed with this anymore. The plane that hit the twin towers was VERY real ask the people who lost family there.
Thats the point not anything to do with Bush.
End of the day you cant argue as it seems violence towards the west is tolerable, but agaisnt them is not and yet they are all happy to settle here and except handouts, free care/security etc
My grandparents were invited here in the 70's during the great brain drain when the taxes went so high people left to work elsewhere
The immigrants came to support the UK economy and now people like you turn around and say you take our free handouts
Now my grandparents paid tax my whole family pays their taxes.
I DONT claim benefits, I pay for my prescriptions i pay taxes i pay for my university.
you have a very skewed view of the world
maybe i worded it wrong, i ment the ones you see protesting in london with signs saying death to christians, and wearing Suicide bomber outfits etc people in the area around abdu hamza etc, who has owned 9 houses and has never worked here at all.
Didnt mean to attack working people like yourself
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New "confession" video up
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1258295,00.html
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abdus
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Originally posted by J-Me
New "confession" video up
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1258295,00.html
made up confession imo
BTW just like most will not agree with these confessions, same applies to the 'bulletproof' passport that was found for one of the terrorists in the 9/11 rubbles....but yet people believed that show by the US
[Edited on 30-03-2007 by abdus]
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jay kay
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tbh i think its fair.
They have arrested them and held them
questioned them
and are propsing a forum or group to prevent this from happening again
The UN has issused grave concerns but thats its iran is just following procedure why cant people see that.
and WTF were they doing in a DINGHY that far out at sea i bet they were skiving
[Edited on 30-03-2007 by jay kay]
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I disagree with it, GPS has show they were in iraq waters, the demand for the release of generals captured in iraq also goes to show were iran stands on terrorism.
Cut all supplies to them
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topshot_2k
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they was on patrol for the ship
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jay kay
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i feel our efforts would be better spent raising money for the navy
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jay kay
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i always wanted to be a fighter pilot 
now ill never get the chance '
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MarkM
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Religion or no religion...
The issue to be addressed is someone is holding our soldiers unlawfully and we are not doing a thing about it...we need to give them an ultimatum if they dont release them we will get them back with force...
Simple...
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topshot_2k
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exactly but this spineless government is useless Mrs Thatcher would have sorted them
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jay kay
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everyone hs a right to thier own opinions thats what makes the world go around.
but do not close your minds to other possibilities
that is all i love you all
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