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Scott M
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5th Feb 07 at 14:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

There is absolutely nothing that beats technique, once you get that right, everything else will come on at its own pace.
Its not something you can compare with other people either as everyone develops at their own rate.
AndyW
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quote:
Originally posted by M333KS D
as for your wieght gainig supplement, 1 word for you, - mammoth 2500. that stuff is the b***cks 2500 calories per serving, if you are stick thin and need that extra umph then this stuff is for you, normally body builders use it when they get to that stage where there srtuggling to get any bigger, and this stuff just bulks you straight up,, but theres loads out there that would be good for you!!


have you experienced using this?
Marc
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5th Feb 07 at 16:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I went for a few months last year. I was on a course of prescribed steroids so got quite big lol. Ended up with a fair amount ofbruising on my chest from the weights I was bench pressing. I'm off them now so going to start up again.
Carl
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
I went for a few months last year. I was on a course of prescribed steroids so got quite big lol. Ended up with a fair amount ofbruising on my chest from the weights I was bench pressing. I'm off them now so going to start up again.


Briuising on your chest from bench pressing? You should not be bouncing the bar off your chest after every rep? all that will lead to is injury, back injuries etc from poor form trying to push up on the rebound.
Steve X16XE
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5th Feb 07 at 18:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I stopped just b4 it touched my chest. Sometimes it just touched. but never enough to cause any brusing.
Marc
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5th Feb 07 at 18:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Carl
Briuising on your chest from bench pressing? You should not be bouncing the bar off your chest after every rep? all that will lead to is injury, back injuries etc from poor form trying to push up on the rebound.

It wasn't from banging the bar on my chest
Carl
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5th Feb 07 at 18:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Marc
quote:
Originally posted by Carl
Briuising on your chest from bench pressing? You should not be bouncing the bar off your chest after every rep? all that will lead to is injury, back injuries etc from poor form trying to push up on the rebound.

It wasn't from banging the bar on my chest

doesn't sound the best eitherway, maybe you were progressing too fast?
Marc
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5th Feb 07 at 18:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah, As I was on steriods I was able to increase the weights without really realising until later on!
Carl
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
Yeah, As I was on steriods I was able to increase the weights without really realising until later on!

Did you get stretchmarks then as well? they look well minging them.
Marc
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5th Feb 07 at 18:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just lined brusing.
ste32
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if you have gone so far down the bar touched your chest you have gone to far down there will be no pressure on your muscles and that will acheve nothing. it will be like having a short rest before each rep
Marc
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5th Feb 07 at 19:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The bar didn't touch my chest for the second time.
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
The bar didn't touch my chest for the second time.


Im sorry, but you might need to spell it out, Im not getting what you mean

[Edited on 05-02-2007 by Cosmo]
ste32
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ok
Scott M
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Ideally you want the bar to touch your chest, as you are then using the full extension of the muscles.
Obviously you dont want it resting there, thats just plain old cheating. And it hurts.
RyanSxi
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9th Feb 07 at 16:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

tbh marc if the bar touches your cheat your doing it wrong you chump
Mather.16v
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9th Feb 07 at 16:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i was going gym twice a week but have had to slow it down a little over the last few weeks because of my college work.

ive kept to a decent diet, ie lots of chicken for lunch and tea, cut out all the crap i used to eat like crisps, chocolate, biscuits, fizzy stuff ect

i also play football twice/three times a week and go joggin as often as i can (well not at the moment because of it being so cold), so i do keep quiet trim neway

going from skinny to being quiet toned and bigger is awesome the girls love it neway and im definatly addicted cant wait to get my new car so i can get to the gym alot easier and also catch up at college so ive got some free time again!
Steve X16XE
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21st Feb 07 at 00:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The Simpsons - Steroides

Download that. It'll give you lots of tips on everything.
Scott M
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22nd Feb 07 at 11:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Lupogti, what workout routine were you following and what was your build before your 12 month gym stint?
M333KS D
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quote:
Originally posted by Scott M
Ideally you want the bar to touch your chest, as you are then using the full extension of the muscles.
Obviously you dont want it resting there, thats just plain old cheating. And it hurts.


no not correct, there is no need for the bar to touch your chest, thats a common missconception. id say it should stop 1 to 2 inches above your chest, the same with any exercises, try not to let your muscles get into that "rest position" they need to be under constant use throughout your reps!
mk4_astra
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22nd Feb 07 at 13:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what m333ks d said.

if you clenche your fist and place your thumb inline with your nipples thats roughly how low you want the bar to be. when you bring the bar up to complete your rep DONT lock your elbows at the top. try and have a nice wide grip on the bar aswell
AdZ9
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22nd Feb 07 at 14:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just got back from the gym! Upped my weights today so im happy. Its all about the compound movements, only thing i hate with my gym is they dont have a squat rack or a suitable deadlift area, bench press/squat has to be done on this machine with the bar on runners. The bar is like 30kg because you pushing it up the runners it feels horrible. Best is when people don't read the sign saying the bar is the equivalent of 30kg, so they walk up acting all tough putting 20kg on each side then wondering why they can't get it off their chest.

I take whey protein (Currently using maximuscles promax), Thermobol (to help weight management), Multi-vitamins, Fish Oil capsules and Flax seed oil. Also follow a strict diet obviously as thats the most important!
Scott M
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22nd Feb 07 at 14:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm not talking about it being at a rest position on your chest, not only is it cheating, it hurts.
AdZ9
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22nd Feb 07 at 14:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

bar never touches my chest, i stop about an inch before it, saw someone in the gym today doing what they call the "westside press" like people do it in prisons, arched his back off the bench completely and pretty much used his legs/body to lift the bar. Still people said well done because he did it with a heavy weight (not sure what it was) nearly said "i'd love to see you do that with the right form"
mk4_astra
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adz9 no matter how much the smith machine says the bar weighs, a proper olympic style bench is alot harder and you will have to drop down in weight when you use one.

oh and i hate it when people do that "westside press" and let there body meet the bar when its only about 1/2 way down

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