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RVN is going yes... however Saha's goal to game ratio after new year is better than anything you got? How many goals did you score this season ??  how many for Crouch?
RVN - 21
WR - 16
LS - 12
i have no problem with Saha and Rooney up front next season... plus Rossi looks amazing.... Ole back from Injury and Smithy could do the job if needed when he's back in September
sorry but im not feeling your vibe
Cisse scored 19 and crouch got 13...thats only 3 behind Rooney and cost a hell of alot less!
Plus your forgetting how shite Saha was before his injury and probably what he'll end up being like next season!
your counting all competitions 
Cisse is fucking sh1e !!
why cant i swear on here anymore
[Edited on 16-05-2006 by Sooty]
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J da Silva
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If the Glazers ever had anything taken from them it would be the Tampaz Bay thing they have over the wash, as that is on reposession territory.
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well it is, if Glaziers went under then so will Utd (although someone would come in and rescue them but it wouldnt be good for the team)
I would search google to prove you wrong but i'm about to watch Lost.
horse shit... Glazers go down, Man U do not... this is a fact mate
I know that.
OK then, you tell me what the money they borrowed to buy the club is secured against...
Just like if you get a loan from the bank for a house, you fail to make payments the house goes. You get a business loan secured against some premises you have, you dont make the payments the premises get repossesed.
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cisse got 19 goals in very few apperance's you must remember...
gerrard got a fair few where were all man utds midfielders goals?
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so you want to talk about club finances compared to our original topic???
fine.... no football clubs make alot of profit, thats not why they are there
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Pasted from Businessman.com
"Once the company is taken off the Stock Exchange, Glazer can call an extraordinary general meeting to ask for United to become a private company and for his personal debts to be transferred onto the club.
Through Red Football, Glazer has borrowed £265million secured against United's assets and a further £275million in "pay-in-kind" loans known as Piks. These are thought to have to be repaid within five years and have very high interest rates of around 18 per cent, and it is these which could then be transferred onto the club"
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your counting all competitions
Cisse is fucking sh1e !!
why cant i swear on here anymore
[Edited on 16-05-2006 by Sooty]
Actually, all competitions Cisse has scored 24.
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cisse got 19 goals in very few apperance's you must remember...
gerrard got a fair few where were all man utds midfielders goals?
but on the flip.. you could say where are all liverpools strikers goals???
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so you want to talk about club finances compared to our original topic???
fine.... no football clubs make alot of profit, thats not why they are there
no, they dont need to make alot of profit...but not being 100's of million is debt is always nice!
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your counting all competitions
Cisse is fucking sh1e !!
why cant i swear on here anymore
[Edited on 16-05-2006 by Sooty]
Actually, all competitions Cisse has scored 24.
erm 9 in the prem this year fella
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so you want to talk about club finances compared to our original topic???
fine.... no football clubs make alot of profit, thats not why they are there
no, they dont need to make alot of profit...but not being 100's of million is debt is always nice!
club is not... the owners are... sorry im not going into another manchester united financial report session tonight
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your counting all competitions
Cisse is fucking sh1e !!
why cant i swear on here anymore
[Edited on 16-05-2006 by Sooty]
Actually, all competitions Cisse has scored 24.
aye.... sinces he's been at Liverpool your reading the wrong table on BBC mate 
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cisse got 19 goals in very few apperance's you must remember...
gerrard got a fair few where were all man utds midfielders goals?
but on the flip.. you could say where are all liverpools strikers goals???
Cisse scored 24 in all comps, thats more than Rooney. Your problem with our forwards is?!
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Your all English, you support English clubs, why not tickle each others sackbags and wish your country the best at WC06? 
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cisse got 19 goals in very few apperance's you must remember...
gerrard got a fair few where were all man utds midfielders goals?
but on the flip.. you could say where are all liverpools strikers goals???
Cisse scored 24 in all comps, thats more than Rooney. Your problem with our forwards is?!
see above post mate... 9 in the prem... 8 in europe.. which includes the qualifier games you had to play extra
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lol nath.
cosmo, your forgeting how much money Man UTD actually have, the best team of last 6/7 years they had for fuck all really.
-rooney,rio,rudd,ronaldo money there rolling in it, 70k fans every home game, is mental. at £30 a pop thats 2million quid  x23 home games + CUP Games, your looking at 35? home games a season, so in the region at 70million a year on tickets alone, and £30 a seat is being conservative as i have no idea how much a seat at old trafford is.
plus prem runners up/winners money, champs league money, sky money. and shirt sales, its coming out there ears
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Pasted from Businessman.com
"Once the company is taken off the Stock Exchange, Glazer can call an extraordinary general meeting to ask for United to become a private company and for his personal debts to be transferred onto the club.
Through Red Football, Glazer has borrowed £265million secured against United's assets and a further £275million in "pay-in-kind" loans known as Piks. These are thought to have to be repaid within five years and have very high interest rates of around 18 per cent, and it is these which could then be transferred onto the club"
I believe that makes me right...so 265mil is secured against their assets (Im guessing the ground, training complex and probably a rough value on the team) and £275mil that the gLaziers ahve to milk out of their companies to pay the other loans off....I wonder why their ticket prices have just gone up 12%?!
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and that was liverpools fault because.... they won the champions league the year before?
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lol nath.
cosmo, your forgeting how much money Man UTD actually have, the best team of last 6/7 years they had for fuck all really.
-rooney,rio,rudd,ronaldo money there rolling in it, 70k fans every home game, is mental. at £30 a pop thats 2million quid
Man Utd's NET profits are more than Real Madrid, there's only 1 british club that are bigger than Man Utd 'as a business' and that's Celtic, but obviously Man Utd are worth more as a name.
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lol nath.
cosmo, your forgeting how much money Man UTD actually have, the best team of last 6/7 years they had for fuck all really.
-rooney,rio,rudd,ronaldo money there rolling in it, 70k fans every home game, is mental. at £30 a pop thats 2million quid
well put... ive had too many beers to construct a point like that 
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edited to include even more shit lol
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lol nath.
cosmo, your forgeting how much money Man UTD actually have, the best team of last 6/7 years they had for fuck all really.
-rooney,rio,rudd,ronaldo money there rolling in it, 70k fans every home game, is mental. at £30 a pop thats 2million quid
Im not getting what your point is here? There is no money in the club, it is in debt no matter how much profit you make each year as it all goes to pay off the £265mil the Glaziers have in loans.
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lol nath.
cosmo, your forgeting how much money Man UTD actually have, the best team of last 6/7 years they had for fuck all really.
-rooney,rio,rudd,ronaldo money there rolling in it, 70k fans every home game, is mental. at £30 a pop thats 2million quid
Im not getting what your point is here? There is no money in the club, it is in debt no matter how much profit you make each year as it all goes to pay off the £265mil the Glaziers have in loans.
what??? since you havent responded to my cisse facts your comment is like saying i have 200 pounds debt... yet no matter how much i earn, its still debt.... pull it together lad
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lol nath.
cosmo, your forgeting how much money Man UTD actually have, the best team of last 6/7 years they had for fuck all really.
-rooney,rio,rudd,ronaldo money there rolling in it, 70k fans every home game, is mental. at £30 a pop thats 2million quid
Im not getting what your point is here? There is no money in the club, it is in debt no matter how much profit you make each year as it all goes to pay off the £265mil the Glaziers have in loans.
i reckon that would take 2 years ... on my earlyer working out
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Look...you make 3mil a game, yeah, thats great and for any other club who isnt massively in debt this would mean the ability to spend big.
But all that profit your making at the end of the season is going back to the Glaziers to pay off the loans. They have £265mil to pay off in 5 years at huge interest so your not going to have massive amounts for new players.
Christ you could have a 150k seater stadium and still not have anymore money to spend!
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