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quote: Originally posted by Mark_Robson 
quote: Originally posted by Craig W 
 
Creatine is good, but if you're on a budget and can't afford both... chose PROTEIN. 
I can almost gurantee you're not making any gains because: 
 
1. You're not eating enough. 
2. Or you're not training intense. 
3. Or there's a problem with your routine. 
 
I thought i was training intense, until i started puking up after certain exercises... that's intense. Bodybuilding is all about pushing yourself through the mental pain barrier. Your mind will give up before your body. 
   
 
I'm pretty sure I eat enought and I frequently leave the gym feeling sick and have to sit down for a while! 
 
My mates think I go too regularly and I should cut it down to 3 visits a week... I'm not sure. 
 
Mark. 
    
 
You should train 3-4 times a week, no more. 
Give me an honest example of a typical days eating? How much do you weigh?
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Skado 
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i smoke also is that going to stop me from gaining weight? i dont feel hungry after i smoke. sorry to bardon all this on you hehe
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quote: Originally posted by Phil321 
quote: Originally posted by Craig W 
Eggs, steak, chicken, turkey, tuna. 
   
 
Cheers mate. I like all of these anyways   So, plenty of the above, lots of milk. How often is it best to go to the gym?  
    
 
Personally, i go 4 times a week. 
 
Monday: chest/triceps 
Tuesday: back/biceps 
Wednesday: rest 
Thursday: shoulders/traps 
Friday: quads/hams/calves 
Saturday: rest 
Sunday: rest 
 
That way i get a rest day in the middle of the week, and the whole weekend.
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I'm just under 6 Foot, I weigh about 88KG, I generally skip breakfast, sandwich and crisps for lunch, generally try to eat turkey or chicken in the sandwich. 
 
Tea consists of Potatoes, sweetcorn, some meat, pasta (generally) 
 
What else I eat depends on the day. 
 
I also only drink water and milk. 
 
Mark.
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quote: Originally posted by Skado 
i smoke also is that going to stop me from gaining weight? i dont feel hungry after i smoke. sorry to bardon all this on you hehe 
    
 
Obviously it's better for your health if you dont smoke, but no, smoking wont stop you from gaining weight. If you dont feel hungry after you smoke, just smoke between meals.
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quote: Originally posted by Mark_Robson 
I'm just under 6 Foot, I weigh about 88KG, I generally skip breakfast, sandwich and crisps for lunch, generally try to eat turkey or chicken in the sandwich. 
 
Tea consists of Potatoes, sweetcorn, some meat, pasta (generally) 
 
What else I eat depends on the day. 
 
I also only drink water and milk. 
 
Mark. 
    
 
Don't skip breakfast, your body is crying for protein in the mornings. Going by that, you're not eating half as much as you should. You need to be consuming protein every 2-3 hours.
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Yeah, the breakfast thing is bad I agree... and I drive around schools for a living so it's difficult to snack with stuff thats high in protein... Any suggestions?? 
 
P.S. Appreciate the help, my friends are all short skinny and not interested in building muscle!   
 
Mark.
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ok gunna start week after next when im back from holiday gunna get me a plan and start eating loads to burn in to musscle
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For those wishing to take creatine, take it in a hot drink like tea or coffee and add a teaspoon of sugar with some fruit or fruit juice. 
You need a loading phase and a maintenance phase. 
Take it like this: 
 
Loading phase:        
10g per day, as 2x5 servings for 5 days 
 5g per day, for 5 days 
 3g per day, for 7 days. 
 
Maintenance phase:  
2g per day, for 5 weeks. 
 
[Edited on 23-07-2003 by Craig W]
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quote: Originally posted by Mark_Robson 
Yeah, the breakfast thing is bad I agree... and I drive around schools for a living so it's difficult to snack with stuff thats high in protein... Any suggestions?? 
 
P.S. Appreciate the help, my friends are all short skinny and not interested in building muscle!   
 
Mark. 
    
 
Lots of things, just prepare it in the morning before work, or the night before. 
Obviously the best thing for you would be protein shakes, easy and quick. Protein bars etc. Or just carry a few chicken breasts around in a tuppaware tub and have a nibble.
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What about Pure Whey? Same sort of thing?
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quote: Originally posted by Craig W 
Lots of things, just prepare it in the morning before work, or the night before. 
Obviously the best thing for you would be protein shakes, easy and quick. Protein bars etc. Or just carry a few chicken breasts around in a tuppaware tub and have a nibble. 
   
 
I shall bear that in mind... Chicken breasts in the back of the car!   
 
May do the protein shake bit though, sounds easy and practical! 
 
Mark.
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do the 2 eggs with milk lol its not THAT bad tbh thats whats quite good i like chicken/eggs but i only drink coke what ill have to change
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quote: Originally posted by Mark_Robson 
What about Pure Whey? Same sort of thing? 
    
 
Yep, i take Pure Whey. 
Buy a shaker bottle from somewhere like Maxi-Muscle, only about £4-£5, so much easier (and cleaner) than using a blender.
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quote: Originally posted by Skado 
do the 2 eggs with milk lol its not THAT bad tbh thats whats quite good i like chicken/eggs but i only drink coke what ill have to change 
    
 
In addition to protein shakes, i mix up 12 eggs (6 whole, 6 whites only), 3-4 scoops of protein and a pint of milk. Sipped through-out the day.
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Hoooow many? I would have to buy shares in a farm!! 
 
I couldn't use that many eggs if I tried! 
 
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quote: Originally posted by Mark_Robson 
Hoooow many? I would have to buy shares in a farm!! 
 
I couldn't use that many eggs if I tried! 
 
M 
    
 
12 through-out a whole day isn't that many when you think of it lol... when i eat scrambled eggs i have 6 eggs, that's harder to eat.
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Your gonna wake up as an egg one day mate!  
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Craig W 
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Nah, i don't eat scrambled egg anymore  
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Okay...   
 
Well, cheers for the advice! 
 
Mark.
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If you want, email me your routine and i'll see if i can give you any pointers.
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Nice one mate, I will give you a shout later on in the week. 
 
Once again, thanx for the help.   
 
Mark.
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Craig W 
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No probs chap.
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creatine will give u muscle bulk, but not much strength 
 
when u take creatine ur muscles absorb more water, hense them looking bigger 
 
they also after a while give u a square jaw and make u arsey, so similer effects as steriods
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quote: Originally posted by luca2020 
they also after a while give u a square jaw and make u arsey
    
 
Creatine gives you a square jaw? Sorry but thats the most ridiculous claim ive ever heard. 
Researches side effects are temporary gastric upset and nausea. Muscle cramps have been reported too, more-so from performance athletes than bodybuilders though. 
Yes it does make the muscle draw more water, and it DOES increase strength, it gives you more energy and stimulates protein synthesis in two ways. 
 
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