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When you are edititng you need about 10 times the ammount footage than what you finally get to in the end edit.
9 minutes. 90 minutes 
And I know how much footage you'll need, that is one thing I have learnt in doing a part media degree 
Robin, i'm backing you up here. They must have several cameras out on the circuit so after an hour or twos driving around they would easily have 90 mins worth of footage to make into a neat edit.
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Why is everyone in the motoring industry always bumming hydrogen?
Every hydrogen car made so far has been crap.
What am I missing?
It's the future.
So they keep saying, but surely the technology needs to work almost as well as petrol, or at least diesel engines do before people will even bother?
and what's wrong with biofuels?
Bio fuels produce carbon dioxide. Hydrogen doesn't. By your ligic we should all be using horses and carts to go about because new technology should be immediately shunned if it doesn't work instantly.
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Robin
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No Ed, I'm not saying that
All I'm saying is that hydrogen cars are currently crap, and have been since they were first attempted.
Tonight on Top Gear, they were making out that it was amazing and perfect, and that it would be next to no time before we're all driving around in hydrogen fuelled cars which are similar to drive to the petrol/diesel cars of today.
That's not going to happen, it needs more development, so if someone said "oh hi, here's a hydrogen car in our model line up, everyone buy it" hardly anyone would, because they're not AS good as the traditional fuels.
You don't have to be so sarcastic all the time TBH, it was a genuine question, not a smart arsed quip.
[Edited on 02-12-2007 by Robin]
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Robin,
You under estimate the co2 mafia...year one kids are now being brainwashed into understanding carbon emissions more than maths/english.
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But the fact is that some sort of alternative powered car is the future. We haven't got oil forever and the car they showed is obviously a good step towards not only zero-emissions, but away from using oil all together.
Not so much that the car is 'the saviour' but a step in the right direction.
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Wasn't the point of that Hydrogen-cell car, that it produces 100kw of energy or something. Therefore enough to power a few houses as they put it, meaning that the car is pretty nippy and powerful?
They said it would be a long way off, because they haven't developed the capabilities/infrastructure of storing it yet.
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RichR
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100kW = 134.1 metric horsepower
The Ford 2.0 ZETEC engine fitted in Mondeo's/Focus' make 130hp in a similar sized car to the Honda so the Hydrogen cell should be relatively similar performance.
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100kW = 134.1 metric horsepower
The Ford 2.0 ZETEC engine fitted in Mondeo's/Focus' make 130hp in a similar sized car to the Honda so the Hydrogen cell should be relatively similar performance.
Sufficient then.
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thought it was the best topgear for agesssssss
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dan_c4rsa
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but when we have hydrogen cars, they wont sound nice 
probs wont make any noise!
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thought it was the best topgear for agesssssss
yeah went back to its roots kinda, a lot more car orientated and not things like how fast can a cyclist pedal when they are on coke.
I enjoyed it 
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Hamilton is clearly over rated.......
Quality episode I thought.
overated but yet matched the Stig's all but 0.something small and LH was in the wet....
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
100kW = 134.1 metric horsepower
The Ford 2.0 ZETEC engine fitted in Mondeo's/Focus' make 130hp in a similar sized car to the Honda so the Hydrogen cell should be relatively similar performance.
If they manage to get the Honda to weigh as little as the Focus.
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Hamilton is clearly over rated.......
Quality episode I thought.
overated but yet matched the Stig's all but 0.something small and LH was in the wet....
nath forgot the [sarcasim] tags
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Hamilton is clearly over rated.......
Quality episode I thought.
overated but yet matched the Stig's all but 0.something small and LH was in the wet....
Staged?
There is no way he was 3 seconds quicker than Mark Webber in the same conditions.
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that f1 car making a tune sounded funny and when Jezza asks LH if he has any pubes yet :S
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Fonz
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Originally posted by Nath
Hamilton is clearly over rated.......
Quality episode I thought.
overated but yet matched the Stig's all but 0.something small and LH was in the wet....
nath forgot the [sarcasim] tags
I thought it would've been obvious.
My bad
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100kW = 134.1 metric horsepower
The Ford 2.0 ZETEC engine fitted in Mondeo's/Focus' make 130hp in a similar sized car to the Honda so the Hydrogen cell should be relatively similar performance.
If they manage to get the Honda to weigh as little as the Focus.
Also imagine parking your car up next to your garden hose and filling the tank with tap water. Hell of a of a lot better than filling up for a quid a litre.
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i bet they'd still charge us or make it so for some reason we had to use special water at filling stations so we would get charged, noway would govt. lose out on all that tax,
half the reason this hasnt already been developed imo
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ed
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There would probably need to be some form of taxation on it because of the ammount of money being invested by the government into the technology...
The reason why it hasn't been developed yet is more like this:
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RichR
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Hindenburg did NOT blow up purely as a result of the Hydrogen - it was the metalatic coating on the inside of the sponson which was effectively used to waterproof the membrane - but in fact when mixed with the small amount of oxygen that passwed through the membrane to the outer layer of the sponson oxidised and sparked
[Edited on 04-12-2007 by LiVe LeE]
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ed
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But hydrogen is still highly explosive, even more so than petrol.
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Paul_J
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Surely one of the main reason's it hasn't been developed yet is that to seperate the hydrogen from oxygen in water, requires lots of electricity?  hence = pointless currently?
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Steve
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we probablt have the technology to do it now, the govt. would never let it happen, they go on about raising fuel prices to help cut emissions, they arent really concerend about emissions, they would rather us drive round polluting the atmosphere paying them taxes then drive around in something that is kind to the environment because they would get any money out of it
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But hydrogen is still highly explosive, even more so than petrol.
but so is LPG 
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