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If I got the degree i'm studying atm i'd expect to be on nearly 30k straight out of uni.
I very doubt you will get one but if you do then well done 
[Edited on 14-04-2005 by vibrio]
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A designated degree is 3 years. And from what i've heard employers would rather have a 3 year designated from glasgow than an honours from most places.
I know tehre is every possibility you could get a degree in anything and end up in McDonalds. £30k a year from the degree i'm doing is very possible. I'm doing it, i've done the research, so I don't really care what i'm being told on here.
Vibrio, there is something like a 50% drop out rate from 1st to 2nd year in computing, then more drop out before 3rd. Its in the top 3 most difficult in the uni afaik, so I have quite an advantage over the idiots sitting in technical colleges rebadged as uni's.
STFU who have no clue.
I have no clue? Everything I said there is from sources a lot more reputable than you and from my own experience so i think you should STFU until you know what your talking about.
You must have lots of computing science knowledge with you molecular biology degree there.
I take it your going to the middle easy then to earn your 30k the day after you graduate
Not the day after no. I might take a weeks holiday 1st.
You still don't seem to be paying much attention for somebody who is supposedly so smart.
It is well within the realms of reality that, if I got the degree, I could get a job paying 30k from uni.
I'm not an idiot in a diddy uni thinking i'll be going out and getting an amazing job.
As I said at least once, I could end up in mcdonalds.
However, as I also said, I've done the research, I know the possibilities, it's doesn't get you the kind of IT support job that every tom dick and harry seems to do now for all the people saying yes everybody has a degree in that.
The original question was what salary do you expect out of uni.
My answer was 30k. Now all the know it alls have had their say and I still stick by that answer. Perfectly possible to get it.
Now if anybody has done my specific degree at my uni then not been able to get a decent job from it i'm perfectly happy to admit i'm wrong.
Otherwise you can all gtf tbh.
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Originally posted by Thoday
If you have a degree, are doing one or just your view...
what salary would you expect to be on for your first job out of uni (with no or very little experience)
note how stupid you look now.
p.s why do you keep harping on about diddy university's. are you under the impression Glasgow is somehow a god like university and people will give you a job just because you got a degree from there.
[Edited on 14-04-2005 by vibrio]
When I was picking uni I picked glasgow because it was one of the best for computing in the UK, and yes ppl with computing degrees from there would, all else being equal, be picked out.
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yes your an atypical twat student
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yes your an atypical twat student
You're just a twat in general. The fact your about 30 and not a student doens't seem to have made any difference to you.
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yes your an atypical twat student
You're just a twat in general. The fact your about 30 and not a student doens't seem to have made any difference to you.
I was a student and will be again hopefully this October at a diddy university in Glasgow but I fail to see what relavence that has to this conversation
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no computing science is better off done at strathclyde
Was just pointed out to me that you said that. That proved you were talking about something you had no clue about as soon as you started.
You must have researched all of this computing stuff while you were in college. Strathclyde is way down the bottom of computing uni's.
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Vibro is properly one of the most intelligent people on this board. Just most of what he says goes over your heads.
I have a computer science degree it is Mickey mouse unless you get a good grade, most bachelor degree as shit and not worth the paper they are written on. May as well throw the money down the drain.
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no computing science is better off done at strathclyde
Was just pointed out to me that you said that. That proved you were talking about something you had no clue about as soon as you started.
You must have researched all of this computing stuff while you were in college. Strathclyde is way down the bottom of computing uni's.
RAE lists are not the be all and end all
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Vibro is properly one of the most intelligent people on this board. Just most of what he says goes over your heads.
I have a computer science degree it is Mickey mouse unless you get a good grade, most bachelor degree as shit and not worth the paper they are written on. May as well throw the money down the drain.
actually I'm of average intelligence most people on this board are below average 
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PMSL look at these geeks
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exactly, my mates still an apprentice all be it in his last year and goes all over the country laying floors for Topshop, Burtons, Dorothy Perkins etc etc, 10 days work and he got £1000
I could lay a floor for £100 a day 
Thats only 26k. No offence mate but you need to look at the wider picture. Laying floors is dogs work. Boring, repetitive, uncomfortable. In that sort of job what he earns now is all he'll ever earn. I would rather work with interesting and intelligent people and do something with some prestige and some prospects.
yeah mate but as stated he is still an apprentice, his boss is on nearly 40k a year, the joiner that did my loft conversion spent x mas in lapland and holidays at every opportunity, recently bought a jetski too
On the other hand he only has one skill/trade and cant read very well
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i hope to get bout 30K but i am goin to be doin a specialist subject(geology) go and work for oil or mining company.
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I have a 11.2 point degree with summa cum laude in computer science with VR developments.
Would i expect 30k no, not for a couple of years and no did I, no one looks at my degree in the industry now. Is more my professional quilications but they are slowing dropping in value becuase of book worms how have never done the job but read it, So is a degree important in my opinion no its worth next to nothing compaired to 5 years expenance in the feild.
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Vibro is properly one of the most intelligent people on this board. Just most of what he says goes over your heads.
I have a computer science degree it is Mickey mouse unless you get a good grade, most bachelor degree as shit and not worth the paper they are written on. May as well throw the money down the drain.
actually I'm of average intelligence most people on this board are below average
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at the end of the day there are more factors involved in what job you get rather just your degree grade
you need a personality as well (be able to motivate others, but i would say good communication skills are important)
also it is partially to do with being in right place at the right time, i could of gone into a job at 17 when i left college that paid 23,000 a year which at the time was a fortune, but there are very few prospects i.e. if you make it to a fully qualified engineer the most you can make is 27,000 which although may sound a lot to those of you who live at home with no kids, try adding a mortgage, a wife and a few kids in to see how far it lasts
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do u think or know many people that have got good jobs from a 3rd in a degree?
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Carol vordaman (sp)
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wat ya mean carol vordaman?!
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isnt a third from 40-50%
are you doing a really really really hard subject
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i fucked up big time last year...all my courseworks have been over 55% so far, got me final exams starting 5th of may! aint started revision yet!
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i fucked up big time last year...all my courseworks have been over 55% so far, got me final exams starting 5th of may! aint started revision yet!
put it this way i'm in my 2nd year my first one is on the 4th and ive done about 3 weeks so far of revision you need to get cracking mate
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Degrees aren't worth much, its experience that counts.
Plus it all depends on how well you interview.
Why is it always people who don't go to uni and have crap jobs that say this?
Possibly because they've actually been working in the real world - where as you have done nothing more than a paper round and a weekend / holiday job
And before you say 'similar to me' - I'm at Reading University, studying Computer Science too.
I must say it's the shittest subject ever - Lecture's filled with geeks like x8john, thinking they know it all and are all 3L1T3 and H4XX0R (I don't even know what this means ).
The work is fairly basic, too much maths in my opinion - but the subject matter is rather uninspiring and the people who study the same subject are almost 90% losers. 
I'm just continuing with the degree regardless, if I do ok I'll continue, if I do average I'm going to possibly do something else / just get a job.
I recommend going to uni as it's a good laugh living in halls, the amount of social nights out and the student loan (which we don't think about having to pay back) - but the work is so so poor it just gets me down some time.
I care not about K-Maps or the internal clock cycles of a CPU. Speaking to Adi-Sri (does the same course at Reading but is in his final year) - he agree's with me the subject is crap and feels he wished he hadn't bothered.
Add this with the fact that having a degree isn't as important as it used to be and it does make you feel like why am I even bothering? I guess I've just lost interest in a subject that I've been studying for so many years.
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Degrees aren't worth much, its experience that counts.
Plus it all depends on how well you interview.
Why is it always people who don't go to uni and have crap jobs that say this?
Possibly because they've actually been working in the real world - where as you have done nothing more than a paper round and a weekend / holiday job
And before you say 'similar to me' - I'm at Reading University, studying Computer Science too.
I must say it's the shittest subject ever - Lecture's filled with geeks like x8john, thinking they know it all and are all 3L1T3 and H4XX0R (I don't even know what this means ).
The work is fairly basic, too much maths in my opinion - but the subject matter is rather uninspiring and the people who study the same subject are almost 90% losers.
I'm just continuing with the degree regardless, if I do ok I'll continue, if I do average I'm going to possibly do something else / just get a job.
I recommend going to uni as it's a good laugh living in halls, the amount of social nights out and the student loan (which we don't think about having to pay back) - but the work is so so poor it just gets me down some time.
I care not about K-Maps or the internal clock cycles of a CPU. Speaking to Adi-Sri (does the same course at Reading but is in his final year) - he agree's with me the subject is crap and feels he wished he hadn't bothered.
Add this with the fact that having a degree isn't as important as it used to be and it does make you feel like why am I even bothering? I guess I've just lost interest in a subject that I've been studying for so many years.
Yes because you know me in real life and i'm a geek
I think you'd find i'm far from it.
Why did you pick computing science if you don't like doing the stuff it contains? It does contain a lot of maths which i hate but I knew this before I started because i'd done my research. Don't know why you are learning much about K-maps in a computing science course for tbh as that should be briefly covered, more of an electronics topic imo.
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I'm doing a Business Management degree and as part of my course I was required to do a year in industry. It taught me a lot as experience is much more important nowadays than qualifications. However at the same time I think having a degree may help many people to get a step or two higher on the ladder when they first start a job.
I'm hoping for a starting salary of about 21k with prospects of promotion with more training i get etc.
Would I say uni is worth the debt? well I think it depends on the course, the classification of degree you get and what sort of job you are aiming for. Is it worth getting a degree to become an admin assistant for your life? the answer I think is no, however I think if you are planning on doing admin as a way of getting onto the ladder with promotion prospects then yes it is worth it.
My brain hurts now so i'll shut up
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