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quote: Originally posted by VXR
quote: Originally posted by Cosmo
quote: Originally posted by VXR
Mercs
Great if you just like straightlines.........
You even ever driven a top of the range AMG any decent amount?
Have you driven one round any bends, then got out and tried another car of the same class and noticed the difference.
Yes, I have is the answer to your question
Yes, read above, we have two AMGs in the family and have driven similar cars we've owned just as much.
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No chance I would have an Exige I'm afraid. Just not keen on the RS4 really, might take another look but it didn't really do anything for me 
Think my preference is the M3/997 and poss AM if I could find a nice example not too far over budget.
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Cosmo
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You'll be the most pimp drug dealer on your street 
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ShEp
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Has VXR driven every car ever made?
I only ask as you seem able to comment on first hand experience no matter what car people ask about
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John
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He has, including a VXR with a performace retarding mat.
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Daimo B
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quote: Originally posted by ShEp
Has VXR driven every car ever made?
I only ask as you seem able to comment on first hand experience no matter what car people ask about
Quote me scottish ginger bufty.... Prove it. 
Or are you just another sprouting rubbish, whats next, King Daimo...
Record, change it...........
I know a lot of facts about a lot of cars, and I know facts from driving a fair few, which doesn't make up nearly the number of facts i know about lots of cars. Just becuase i talk about cars a lot, sorry, im sure this was a car forum.....
Maybe I should post all the motogp chats, or motorcycle chats, or various other things I chat about on the APPROPRIATE FORUMS AND WEBSITES.
Cosmo, thats cool enough. Me, I personnally don't like mercs. I like what they do for the automotive world, motorsport etc, so don't dislike the company, I just don't like the boaty feeling they have. Reminds me of a Calibra in terms of handling (various models, from little peoplewagon A class (?) up to them submarine shaped tampon big beefy model (two large oval tailpipes, driven by business ponces). I dislike the material in the leather (leather comes in different grades, for those un-educated), I dislike the dash, the looks of the dash, the colours used (latest models all with black/grey inside arn't as bad as previous), but it just not something i'd ever want to own.
Fantastically powerful engines though.
Clearly im being a biased anus here just slating mercs..... Some would have you think 
Oh, im also in this post as Niks budget will be similar to our next budget for a car, so im taking interest.
[Edited on 14-01-2009 by VXR]
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quote: Originally posted by VXR
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Daimo You should of seen the CL63 AMG and the CLS AMG drifting around a marked course at Autosport.
Wont be as sharp as the Beema but not really noticeable to the usual road driver. Also thr New SL has improved dynamics too
Holding a drift does not mean it goes round bends.
Never liked mercs, hate the interior, vastly worse customer support than gets let on about (BMW n Audi, even Vauxhall put them to shame).
Superb engines, amazing in fact, but if anything tooooo powerfull (hence limited torque settings).
Great motorway/distance cars, but i'd far more likey take the BMW due to many reasons. Never seen the "appeal" of a mercades.
Even the old amazing Gullwin SL300 was a pile of dogs turd, nothing much has improved
Trust me and I would say the majority of press when they they do handle well, the hwole range has improved, even new SLK is a proper drivers car!
Evo's opinion versus yours.....hmmmm tough one that!
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nik
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quote: Originally posted by Cosmo
You'll be the most pimp drug dealer on your street 
Already am mate
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John
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The E92 M3's look good, first one i've ever wanted, people would think you were mega rich driving about in the bentley, even if it cost the same as the M3.
VXR, you know that much about cars that you've just described a merc as the one with two oval tailpipes
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Daimo B
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quote: Originally posted by Fad
quote: Originally posted by VXR
quote: Originally posted by Fad
Daimo You should of seen the CL63 AMG and the CLS AMG drifting around a marked course at Autosport.
Wont be as sharp as the Beema but not really noticeable to the usual road driver. Also thr New SL has improved dynamics too
Holding a drift does not mean it goes round bends.
Never liked mercs, hate the interior, vastly worse customer support than gets let on about (BMW n Audi, even Vauxhall put them to shame).
Superb engines, amazing in fact, but if anything tooooo powerfull (hence limited torque settings).
Great motorway/distance cars, but i'd far more likey take the BMW due to many reasons. Never seen the "appeal" of a mercades.
Even the old amazing Gullwin SL300 was a pile of dogs turd, nothing much has improved
Trust me and I would say the majority of press when they they do handle well, the hwole range has improved, even new SLK is a proper drivers car!
Evo's opinion versus yours.....hmmmm tough one that!
Thats fine.
Like some people will believe anything clarkson says I guess. He's always right, just like Evo is ALWAYS right 
No, they are just opinions of people. Which is what im expressing, without as much hardcore driving experience, but enough to make me think.....
Oh, sorry, thats right, i always think im right don't I...
Or is that certain people that always mention the above line.....???? 
Besides, can't listen to a poncy french plastic clio owner God no. Almost as bad as Saxo/2.0 Corsa owners
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nik
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at the way this thread is going.
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Daimo B
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quote: Originally posted by John
VXR, you know that much about cars that you've just described a merc as the one with two oval tailpipes
Model numbers of cars I do not care for so much, yes because we all remember the things we don't care about.
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Tom
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Daimo, what model AMG's have you driven otu of interest?
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Cosmo
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quote: Originally posted by Tom
Daimo, what model AMG's have you driven otu of interest?
The one with the oval tailpipes, the one with the square tail pipes, the one...
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Daimo B
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quote: Originally posted by Tom
Daimo, what model AMG's have you driven otu of interest?
SL55 AMG
ClS500 AMG
CLK (older shape mode, flat arse)
320CLK AMG
Not an amazing amount, but a few to gain an opinion.
That doesn't include the derv models i've driven, which had very smooth derv engines, and very soft wallowy suspension.
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Daimo B
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quote: Originally posted by nik
at the way this thread is going.
I know, I put a few opinons, and because the majority doesn't agree, its "lets gang up on Damien" patrol.
Oh, above, the 500, im unsure if that was an AMG thinking about it, might just have been a normal 500.
Jesus-fing nora. If you8r not a sheep, or part of the crowed, it aint hip.....
PS, I stand by my, drifting around a cone does not make a good handling car comment.
Hmmmm wheres practially every report comparing the CLK65 (?think) Vs V8 M3 again???
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Cosmo
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quote: Originally posted by VXR
I know, I put a few opinons, and because the majority doesn't agree, its "lets gang up on Damien" patrol.
Oh, above, the 500, im unsure if that was an AMG thinking about it, might just have been a normal 500.
Jesus-fing nora. If you8r not a sheep, or part of the crowed, it aint hip.....
I wasnt arguing because it was you, I was asking how much you have driven modern AMGs as given the amount I have driven them I totally disagree with your comments.
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Daimo B
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quote: Originally posted by Cosmo
I wasnt arguing because it was you, I was asking how much you have driven modern AMGs as given the amount I have driven them I totally disagree with your comments.
Unlike most, you probably do have proper experience on driving them. Doesn't mean we've got to agree.
Least yours is based on opinions also, not just some tinternet nonce kicking off, when they are ex skoda and saab owners.
Let me hold back the excitement experience of driving these cars (also of which i've driven a few models, but thats not the post, but FYI john, terrible cars.....).
Cosmo though, seriously, merc handling over bmw handling, or even audi? True Audi's are a little understeary, you can feel the weight your driving, but its involving at least, you don't feel like a walloy driver with no real feeling of the car.
Least thats what i've thought each time. Good to see someone can actually "discuss" it though.
[Edited on 14-01-2009 by VXR]
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Thanks for your opinions, i'll treat them the way I treat the rest of your posts.
Saab is questionable, skoda was an excellent car, you own a few vauxhalls though so can't really comment tbh.
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apart from the RS models how youve just described the mercs is how i feel about the majority of Audis
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quote: Originally posted by VXR
quote: Originally posted by ShEp
Has VXR driven every car ever made?
I only ask as you seem able to comment on first hand experience no matter what car people ask about
Quote me scottish ginger bufty.... Prove it. 
Or are you just another sprouting rubbish, whats next, King Daimo...
Record, change it...........
I know a lot of facts about a lot of cars, and I know facts from driving a fair few, which doesn't make up nearly the number of facts i know about lots of cars. Just becuase i talk about cars a lot, sorry, im sure this was a car forum.....
Maybe I should post all the motogp chats, or motorcycle chats, or various other things I chat about on the APPROPRIATE FORUMS AND WEBSITES.
Cosmo, thats cool enough. Me, I personnally don't like mercs. I like what they do for the automotive world, motorsport etc, so don't dislike the company, I just don't like the boaty feeling they have. Reminds me of a Calibra in terms of handling (various models, from little peoplewagon A class (?) up to them submarine shaped tampon big beefy model (two large oval tailpipes, driven by business ponces). I dislike the material in the leather (leather comes in different grades, for those un-educated), I dislike the dash, the looks of the dash, the colours used (latest models all with black/grey inside arn't as bad as previous), but it just not something i'd ever want to own.
Fantastically powerful engines though.
Clearly im being a biased anus here just slating mercs..... Some would have you think 
Oh, im also in this post as Niks budget will be similar to our next budget for a car, so im taking interest.
[Edited on 14-01-2009 by VXR]
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Daimo B
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quote: Originally posted by John
Saab is questionable, skoda was an excellent car, you own a few vauxhalls though so can't really comment tbh.
No, I don't own any vauxhalls.
Facts, get some.
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Daimo B
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quote: Originally posted by jr
apart from the RS models how youve just described the mercs is how i feel about the majority of Audis
See the Audi's are lifeless on the stearing, but no-where near like the mercs.
Audis are like corsas conversions, the big engines up front makes them go straight-on.
No-where near as quick as a merc in a straightline (interested to see this new 3.0 SC lump, in gear stats look good!).
I'd much rather the RS4, or the S5. Nick will say No as he's been there, but looking at the Nissan 370 as well. More umph, less weight, better handling.
The drive will tell.
What about the 370 nik, or not enough seats, and been there (yeah i know the interiors not fannytastic )
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i would say
E92 M3
Jaguar XK 4.2 v8 convertible
Bentley Conti
Audi RS4 Convertible
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