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Colin
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27th Nov 08 at 21:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
your taste in cars is poor....




They just do nothing for me at all mate, maybe im getting too old for my own good but I think the VXR range looks like it was designed by Halfords/Ripspeed team. Exterior looks too wild (but not in a good way) & flung on in bits. Interior looks too cheap aswell. I just dont like the look of it....id prefer the boring golf.

Everyone has different tastes tho!
Kerry
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gfMTDYovkkU

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=389BVTOH6lY&feature=related

SportBoy
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hmm . standard vxr vs a civic with drag tyres and launch control
Ojc
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28th Nov 08 at 07:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Colin
quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
your taste in cars is poor....




They just do nothing for me at all mate, maybe im getting too old for my own good but I think the VXR range looks like it was designed by Halfords/Ripspeed team. Exterior looks too wild (but not in a good way) & flung on in bits. Interior looks too cheap aswell. I just dont like the look of it....id prefer the boring golf.

Everyone has different tastes tho!


Not sure how you came to the conclusion that the interior is cheap when the seats are the same as what is in the S3
Ian W
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Originally posted by deano87
The problem with the S3, is it's a Golf, in a fancy frock, with a higher price tag, and not any better.

Looks wise though


Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gfMTDYovkkU

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=389BVTOH6lY&feature=related




Your really not making yourself look very clever in this post

Standard VXR Vs modified civic...

I might as well post Gaz's corsa whooping a standard vxr at Pod.....

You've obviously not driven any of these cars, the doors ---> way...
Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc

Not sure how you came to the conclusion that the interior is cheap when the seats are the same as what is in the S3


You cannot say the centre plastics on the astra are of "high quality" becuase they arn't.

Seats, dash itself, dials, doorcards etc all very good, but that silver plastic/black plastic (dep what u've got) looks nasty.
Ojc
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28th Nov 08 at 09:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Silver looks no where good as the black.

The Corsa inside feels a lot more modern than the Astra, but I wouldn't say a Golf or Audi are much better at all.
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yep both on a par i would say, apart from a tiny tiny diffrence in dashbord plastics on the audi beeing a bit nicer
Ben J
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I think the piano black looks awesome. Tbh...I think its amusing all these people judging the Astra VXR when they haven't driven/been in one.

I've driven both the new CTR and MK5 Golf GTI. Drove both before I got my VXR and still decided on the VXR.

[Edited on 28-11-2008 by Ben J]
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I can't see how someone can say the Astra looks like it has ram raided Halfords when the new S3 looks quite similar to the VXR, big bumpers, defuser, big wheels, chrome detailing.
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tbh i'm just adding fuel to the fire, its only an astra and a golf, why you have to argue for 4 pages which is best i don't know.

its all much of a muchness neither is "better" at everything.

performance wise they all just average for that kind of car these days,

none are sports cars, none are involving to drive, none are drivers cars. They all there to fill a gap in the market. That gap being:

"entry level performance cheap to run room for shopping wife and kids affordable to buy"
Ojc
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You have just dribbled the biggest load of horseshit ever to be written.

None are drivers car?
None are involving?
Average performance?

What exactly are you comparing this against?

They are hot hatches, they won't handle as good as a VX220 or an Elise, thats a given but the Elise or VX220 owner won't be able to take 4 people and luggage with him.

You are making no sense at all.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
tbh i'm just adding fuel to the fire, its only an astra and a golf, why you have to argue for 4 pages which is best i don't know.

its all much of a muchness neither is "better" at everything.

performance wise they all just average for that kind of car these days,

none are sports cars, none are involving to drive, none are drivers cars. They all there to fill a gap in the market. That gap being:

"entry level performance cheap to run room for shopping wife and kids affordable to buy"


And you dont drive men wild as per your profile bit...

But you've still written that dribble too

None are "drivers" cars, girl your talking more sh1t than you did when moaning about getting a vectra on a corsa stand...

Please leave the room, as you've said, just trying to write sh1te, and clearly have no idea what your on about. Your just making yourself look dim.

Im betting you've driven maybe one of the cars mentions on this post, if that...

Performance = average. Damn i knew we should ahve got that 1.6 astra instead, peformance is similar and average.

kidds = 5 door, these are 3 doors.

How to make yourself look really stupid on a car forum in one easy step.

Speak to kerry
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
I think the piano black looks awesome. Tbh...I think its amusing all these people judging the Astra VXR when they haven't driven/been in one.

I've driven both the new CTR and MK5 Golf GTI. Drove both before I got my VXR and still decided on the VXR.

[Edited on 28-11-2008 by Ben J]


i would say this thread is the complete opersite, and 90% of the people are going for the astra having never beein in one
Daimo B
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I've never been in an Astra
Joe
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I disagree on the whole build quality thing. My 52 reg Audi is so much better put together than any Vauxhall I have been in. Same goes for any newer VW/Audi too, the build quality isn't on par. Vauxhall have come along way, but still have work to do.
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Rubbish Joe, sorry.
Joe
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Not really, personal opinion. I have sat in most late Vauxhalls and none feel particularly solid. Horrible dash plastics, generally don't feel well put together.

I know you have your little VAG hatred, but if you took your Vauxhall glasses off then they really aren't all that.
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I will be accused of Audi tinted glasses but it is much nicer quality/feel/looks/put together than any current Vauxhall.

Vauxhalls have improved no denying that but if I felt they had improved to the level of VW/Audi then I wouldn't be driving what I am driving would I!
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i felt vag peaked with interiour build quality with the mk4, still looks ok 10 years down the line
Ojc
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Fucking what a load of tosh, VW/Audi quality levels are falling all the time, with each new car they get worse.

I can't see why anyone in their right mind would spend 22k on an entry level Audi A3, seriously why? Is it so that you feel better when you tell your friends, not because it drives better or has all the toys.

99.2% of Audi/VW owners buy the car to impress their friends. I don't buy into the whole "I drive an Audi/VW therefore I'm better than you" bollocks.
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VXR is a very very capable car but I would plumet for the Golf as it looks better and majority of the motoring press prefer it over its oposition.

Most of the four pages here is dribble when at the end of the day its all horses for courses what people prefer.
Ojc
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....and this isn't my Vauxhall tinted glasses, this is from what I read, from what I see, from what I do.

I had a new shape 57 plate Polo a while back as a rental car, it had a motherfucking tape deck for christ sake, the interior plastics were woeful, the seats were like deck chairs. Ok it was a base model, but even Corsa 1.0 12v Envoys these days have electric windows and CD players and some sort of lumbar support.

Then my sisters Mk4 Golf GTi 1.8 20vT which she bought BRAND spanking new, specced up the max, was blue with creme leather interior, it was a lovely car but after a couple of years the thing fell to bits. So she chopped it in got a Beetle, now she can't shift it because it's a sack of shit with warning lights that can't be switched off and VW dealers that are clueless.

Yet my sister still refuses to accept that they were bad cars, shes as blinkered as the rest of you yet she moved away from VW's now and got a 320D

Times change, VW/Audi aren't the best "premium" car on the market anymore, they aren't leagues ahead of the rest like they were, they are average just like Vauxhall/Ford. Get over it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Fucking what a load of tosh, VW/Audi quality levels are falling all the time, with each new car they get worse.

I can't see why anyone in their right mind would spend 22k on an entry level Audi A3, seriously why? Is it so that you feel better when you tell your friends, not because it drives better or has all the toys.

99.2% of Audi/VW owners buy the car to impress their friends. I don't buy into the whole "I drive an Audi/VW therefore I'm better than you" bollocks.


Price aside, they are better made. You pay for the quality, but Vauxhall at the minute just can't compete. IMO

Because people want to? Also, would £22k really be entry level? The cheapest A3 according to Audi website is just shy of £15k. Yes its alot of money, but people will/do pay it.

I didn't buy my car to impress anyone? My dad has had some form of Audi in the family for 10 years, again not to impress anyone. Just due to the fact they are good cars?

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