Daimo B
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
No but a friend who is scooby daft and spends most of his time up at AWD(the guys who own and tune some of the fastest scoobys in the uk)has informed me how shite the P1s are.They roll in week in week out for rebuilds.
Yer well my m8 knows da guy wiv da 1300bhp skyline innit. He iz m8's wiv da owners dogs sisters owners mother.
So it must be true, bo....
 Mates of a mate of a mate who expands the truth yeah?
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Corsa_Sport21
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Well why cant it be true??
Just because some1 else says its not??
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Stu
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Well why cant it be true??
Just because some1 else says its not??
I just cant be doing with people who make comments like "P1's are shit" when they havent got a clue what they are on about!!!
Go on..............what is shit about them? What are the major engine failures and why do they fail? 
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Well why cant it be true??
Just because some1 else says its not??
I am 2nd in line to the throne.
I have said this, so it must be true.
Im with Stu here. P1's are ouber poop and should be left to be bought be 19 year old wippet bowyis with caps, chains, and a blade.
Yo
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12xe
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how long is a piece of string?
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Stu
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Originally posted by 12xe
how long is a piece of string?
7 inches
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Daimo B
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I#ve always thought the P1's to be the "best all rounder" of the scoobies.
22B performance, nearly 22B looks, not quite 22B price tag, but awesome on the roads?
I wouldn't say no.
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Stu
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Originally posted by 12xe
how long is a piece of string?
7 inches
7" long, with a girth = to 1cm 
Girth counts
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Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by Stu
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Originally posted by 12xe
how long is a piece of string?
7 inches
7" long, with a girth = to 1cm
Girth counts
Mixing units of measurement tut tut
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I#ve always thought the P1's to be the "best all rounder" of the scoobies.
22B performance, nearly 22B looks, not quite 22B price tag, but awesome on the roads?
I wouldn't say no.
But you can buy a Type R for cheaper? And you get more for the money!
I'm a massive Subaru fan, but when I was at the hypertec RR day with Track Scotland, we got there a bit early and got speaking to the lads, who told me they had a P1 in getting rebuilt, they just HAD one getting rebuilt, and another coming in
Wrighty, they aren't the same mate...
The P1 doesn't have the water injection for the intercooler, DCCD and a lower ratio gearbox (well, every gear except for 1st). The Type R is the better of the two.
[Edited on 24-10-2008 by Eck]
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
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Originally posted by Wrighty
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
P1s are shite.Find me 1 that hasnt had a rebuild or a new engine.
theyve got the same engine as every other 3dr
Must be something to do with the way the UK specs are mapped or built then.
It's because they used the EXACT same engine as in the Japanese Type R's... But didn't map them properly to run on UK fuel. Which results in bang unless it's been driven on V-Power (or equivilant) or mapped again to run on 95RON.
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Wrighty
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shouldnt be running one on 95 ron fuel anyway to be honest!
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Stu
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Originally posted by Eck
But you can buy a Type R for cheaper? And you get more for the money!
I'm a massive Subaru fan, but when I was at the hypertec RR day with Track Scotland, we got there a bit early and got speaking to the lads, who told me they had a P1 in getting rebuilt, they just HAD one getting rebuilt, and another coming in
Wrighty, they aren't the same mate...
The P1 doesn't have the water injection for the intercooler, DCCD and a lower ratio gearbox (well, every gear except for 1st). The Type R is the better of the two.
[Edited on 24-10-2008 by Eck]
Yes...........but when most P1 owners were buying them (like myself) they wanted a UK car that had a warranty and could be serviced by UK main dealers (they wouldnt touch greys)
Everything on the P1 engine was identical to the Type R engine. The P1 had a slightly different map but it still had lean spots when ran on UK fuel. Dont mod them and run them on 99RON with octane booster BUT they still need looking after. Things like oil temp and MAF's
Water spray on the intercooler in the UK climate...........pointless! DCCD is a nice toy but the P1's torque split was set up nicely anyway and how many times are they used in gravel and snow where a DCCD comes into its own? Gearboxes were identical apart from 5th gear............who wants to be doing 4500rpm at 70?
I personally think the P1 is a better car than the Type R for the UK market, but thats just my opinion!
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S'pose it is all down to personal opinion matey! But I'm just backing up the fact that they DO go bang. But that may be down to owners not looking after them properly.
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Stu
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Originally posted by Eck
S'pose it is all down to personal opinion matey! But I'm just backing up the fact that they DO go bang. But that may be down to owners not looking after them properly.
Yeah, I agree!
The only thing that annoys me is people coming on just saying they're shit with no back up and knowing nothing!!! Most of these people havent even seen a P1, let alone had first hand experience of them!
To be honest tho, most performance cars have their achillies heel and people forget about that! Look at Evo's, M3's, RS6's,...........Im not even going to mention TVR's and the like!! These kids drive 1.2 Corsas that never break and then try comparing their reliablilty to something with 100 times the technology and 6 times the power!
[Edited on 24-10-2008 by Stu]
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Best all rounder is probably an RB5 with PPP tbh Daimo.
I've decided i ain't defending scoobys on this Forum anymore.
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Wrighty
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Originally posted by Stu
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Originally posted by Eck
S'pose it is all down to personal opinion matey! But I'm just backing up the fact that they DO go bang. But that may be down to owners not looking after them properly.
Yeah, I agree!
The only thing that annoys me is people coming on just saying they're shit with no back up and knowing nothing!!! Most of these people havent even seen a P1, let alone had first hand experience of them!
To be honest tho, most performance cars have their achillies heel and people forget about that! Look at Evo's, M3's, RS6's,...........Im not even going to mention TVR's and the like!! These kids drive 1.2 Corsas that never break and then try comparing their reliablilty to something with 100 times the technology and 6 times the power!
[Edited on 24-10-2008 by Stu]
couldnt have said it better, they just have a pop thinking they know what they are on about
'urr p1s are shit, theyre not mapped right' please stfu, no wonder theyre always in for rebuilds if idiots like themselves drive them, thinking they know how to look after them inside out, because its obvious they havnt a ferkin clue!
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corsa_rob
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get summat fun...scoobys are just scoobys why not spend 4k on a car?
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Would have to be the vectra for me as I wouldn't beg an impreza
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Corsa_Sport21
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So after all that was said above about hearing it in the local halfrauds or just making up shite when ive never owned 1 was all for nothing??
Where do u think that most of the human knowledge comes from??Yes people in the know.I wouldnt of said what i did if i didnt beleive what i was told about them by the guy that could probably tell yous 2 a few hometruths about Scoobys.So pipe back down and stop trying to make me look stupid.
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Originally posted by Stu
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Originally posted by Eck
S'pose it is all down to personal opinion matey! But I'm just backing up the fact that they DO go bang. But that may be down to owners not looking after them properly.
Yeah, I agree!
The only thing that annoys me is people coming on just saying they're shit with no back up and knowing nothing!!! Most of these people havent even seen a P1, let alone had first hand experience of them!
To be honest tho, most performance cars have their achillies heel and people forget about that! Look at Evo's, M3's, RS6's,...........Im not even going to mention TVR's and the like!! These kids drive 1.2 Corsas that never break and then try comparing their reliablilty to something with 100 times the technology and 6 times the power!
[Edited on 24-10-2008 by Stu]
Exactly, most "experts" have never owned the car in question. Had the same issue when looking for RX7s.
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So after all that was said above about hearing it in the local halfrauds or just making up shite when ive never owned 1 was all for nothing??
Where do u think that most of the human knowledge comes from??Yes people in the know.I wouldnt of said what i did if i didnt beleive what i was told about them by the guy that could probably tell yous 2 a few hometruths about Scoobys.So pipe back down and stop trying to make me look stupid.
Do you own a subaru, no
Do you know what your talking about, no, do you fuck
what car do you drive? probably a vauxhall corsa!
Your just typing shit about peoples bad expeiences, because they havnt looked after them and probably dont know how - just to say their shit.
Your not an expert on things because of what youve overheard from your buddys so how about you pipe the ferk down, because you are an idiot kid and its people like you that get on everyones tits
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Stu
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
So after all that was said above about hearing it in the local halfrauds or just making up shite when ive never owned 1 was all for nothing??
Where do u think that most of the human knowledge comes from??Yes people in the know.I wouldnt of said what i did if i didnt beleive what i was told about them by the guy that could probably tell yous 2 a few hometruths about Scoobys.So pipe back down and stop trying to make me look stupid.
Us trying to make you look stupid? Behave! Your the one who came out with the P1's are shit comment when you havent got a clue what your on about!
So go on then................apart from the "P1's are shit bit" what other pearls of wisdom did you pick up about the P1?
You really are absolutley clueless!!!
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Corsa_Sport21
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Its threads like this that make CS more and more like the Gti-R owners club.Full of jumped up idiots that think they are better than every1 else.Yes i do drive a corsa,but b4 that ive had many a performance car and do know how to look after them and know what to look out for.If i fancy a car i do some research 1st.Have never owned a scooby and would never own 1.Not because i cant afford 1,purely for the reasons that they go bang.I personally dont trust them.Yous can say its just horror stories but youd be lying to yourselfs and you know it.
Its like folk who say Pulsar gearboxes are shite,even tho they have never owned 1.I have and will admit they are shite so things u hear on the net or from friends can be true.However i can say that i never had problems with mine,purely because it was looked after.Same goes with my mate who owns the fastest Pulsar
in Europe,(iirc)(which was previously owned and built by the above mentioned AWD)which runs app 500bhp on a standard box.Its lasted because it has been looked after.
Scoobys do have strong bottom ends as standard,its when u get some1 who thinks they can just whack on an I/C,fit a bigger fuel pump and turn up the boost,and that makes them safe.WRONG.
My mate had an early RA(yes the lightweight version with CR box,lightweight body panels,I/C spray,diff control etc) and he spent an absolute fortune getting it running right.
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Do the sensible thing and buy an Evo 
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