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Daveskater
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Yeah, but they mean it's FWD but it'll feel like 4WD. We'll soon see if it's true or not. Could be good, could be useless, who knows.

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What he means is that it's not "real" 4WD though.

As long as it doesn't just torque steer everywhere then it shouldn't be that bad imo. This is the part where I get called thick

Not that I care tonight because an admin on another forum is annoying me and being hypocritical.
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Yeah, but they mean it's FWD but it'll feel like 4WD. We'll soon see if it's true or not. Could be good, could be useless, who knows.


Then Fords advertising team have done wonders getting people to believe this could be true
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Yes, they act more like 4WD cars than FWD when the diff grips


What da fuck? That makes no sence. Its either 4WD or FWD. Theres no in-betweens or any similarity because of the diff
I cant be arsed matey, I know what I mean but im too tired to explain it
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With clever setup on the diff and anti roll bars you can get the car to oversteer in a fasion that is suitable for a production car. Though it will be setup to understeer as Ford will have to worry about lawsuits and such. VW said something similar about the most recent Golf GTi I believe.
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Yes, they act more like 4WD cars than FWD when the diff grips


What da fuck? That makes no sence. Its either 4WD or FWD. Theres no in-betweens or any similarity because of the diff
I cant be arsed matey, I know what I mean but im too tired to explain it


I need to invest in a diff like that haha lol
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Yeah, but they mean it's FWD but it'll feel like 4WD. We'll soon see if it's true or not. Could be good, could be useless, who knows.


Then Fords advertising team have done wonders getting people to believe this could be true


It could be true. It's easy to make a FWD car FEEL like a 4wd handling wise. Grip wise no, but handling wise, the way the car behaves in a bend, yes.
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Yeah, but they mean it's FWD but it'll feel like 4WD. We'll soon see if it's true or not. Could be good, could be useless, who knows.


Then Fords advertising team have done wonders getting people to believe this could be true


It could be true. It's easy to make a FWD car FEEL like a 4wd handling wise. Grip wise no, but handling wise, the way the car behaves in a bend, yes.


Im still not convinced. They are both a totally different skill to drive.
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Does your car have a decent diff?
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i'd have one
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Does your car have a decent diff?


Quaiffe ATB LSD? Do you class that as any good?
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Originally posted by Daveskater
What he means is that it's not "real" 4WD though.

As long as it doesn't just torque steer everywhere then it shouldn't be that bad imo. This is the part where I get called thick

Not that I care tonight because an admin on another forum is annoying me and being hypocritical.
WTF



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Does your car have a decent diff?


Quaiffe ATB LSD? Do you class that as any good?


yeah, so you know how your car handles like a FWD car shouldn't then, and you can make it 4 wheel drift when you lift off?

the diff in the RS is (alledgedly) electonically controlled, it WILL handle like it's not FWD, it won't behave anything like a FWD car you've ever driven.
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Does your car have a decent diff?


Quaiffe ATB LSD? Do you class that as any good?


yeah, so you know how your car handles like a FWD car shouldn't then, and you can make it 4 wheel drift when you lift off?

the diff in the RS is (alledgedly) electonically controlled, it WILL handle like it's not FWD, it won't behave anything like a FWD car you've ever driven.


Your so good with words. I think im understanding it now Still wouldnt buy one and they should have made it 4WD
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Oh, I agree, but I think it would have been priced well out of the market it's aimed at if it was FWD.
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Oh, I agree, but I think it would have been priced well out of the market it's aimed at if it was FWD.


Unfortunatly so. The RS name is well and truely killed off for anything good
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Glad robin has a way with words
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I dunno, I'm going to reserve judgment until I get to drive one. The ST225 seems to cope with 280bhp without a decent diff, so I think the RS will be a cracker in all honesty.

Most standard RS models are overrated anyway, the legend is more impressive than the cars IMO.
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4wd, more weight = needs more power

RWD on the other hand
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Most standard RS models are overrated anyway, the legend is more impressive than the cars IMO.


Get out now
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Most standard RS models are overrated anyway, the legend is more impressive than the cars IMO.


Get out now


Seriously.

Standard Sierra/Sapphire/Escort RS Cosworths are poo, standard Escort/Fiesta RS Turbos are poo, the RSs which shouldn't have even been called RSs are poo.

In road trim, most RSs aren't up to much, RS200 excluded.
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FFS i'd rather just buy a Focus ST and modify it to 300 brake..add some decent suspension goodies...fukc off brakes and save myself a good 5K odd
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That woudl probably cost u almost £5k and ud still be missing the all important diff
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Noooooooooooo Robbo...

A nice orange(lol) say 06 plate ST for about 14K then about 4K modding it will still only be 18K so if the RS is going to be 26K then i've saved 8K??

I'll try and live without the diff
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wow, a new ford i actually like.

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