grogan
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Registered: 31st Jul 06
Location: County Durham
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quote:
Originally posted by Whittie
Any regulars in the 10?
I just tried to post in my forsale thread in car's offered, and completely forgot 
(p.s. sorry ian, will kepp my distance from u now :thumbs
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little_duke
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Registered: 21st Aug 06
Location: Tamworth,staffordshire Drives: rover coupe
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agreed,good call on this.totally fair.tbh if it happens on other corsa forums,let corsasport be the forum to realise it and make a change to it
this website is quality 99.9% of the time.its only as stated in this like when people wreck your thread with unwanted comments.its childish doing it to peoples threads but it seems wierd the people who have done it moan when people do it back to them
finally glad youve realised its happening ian 
[Edited on 06-02-2008 by little_duke]
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
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On the contrary, I've known for a while that a proportion of users do not have the intellect or strength of character to exercise the basic human skill of being nice.
I've also seen much flagrant disregard for rules over the years.
The policy change is sheer exasperation and disappointment and having to give in to stricter administrative policy because asking nicely doesn't work.
I'm very angry at having had to do this.
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BarnshaW
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Registered: 25th Oct 06
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im sure harsher warnings before the bans would have saved alot of the banning. theres alot more worse stuff said which people have not been banned for.
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ShEp
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Registered: 9th Aug 05
Location: Dingwall, Highland
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But some people just don;t listen, and ban's are better,
what else is there? run around chasing all you's giving you's warnings, remembering who you are and banning you the next time?
nah 48hr ban never killed anybody, and you've learned your lesson?
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BarnshaW
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Registered: 25th Oct 06
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oh im sorry shep the good samaritan. never seen a bad word come out of your mouth. im not saying the comments were right but had i been given a warning they would have been edited and removed and not happened again. also tbh i and many others have never read the rules for posting in classifieds.
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ShEp
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Registered: 9th Aug 05
Location: Dingwall, Highland
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quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
also tbh i and many others have never read the rules for posting in classifieds.
There you go.
And no I'm no good samaratin, I'd say some of the things I've said in the past earned me a 48hr ban,
But the comments you made seemed to be a priority problem, just made at the wrong time for you to get away with a warning unfortunately
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willay
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Organiser: South East, National Events
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Registered: 10th Nov 02
Location: Roydon, Essex
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just be careful out there people, as much as this stops people shitting up your car for sale threads, it also stops people warning you of potential shitters and liars but hey thats buying cars private for you
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Dan295
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Registered: 9th Oct 06
Location: London
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
just be careful out there people, as much as this stops people shitting up your car for sale threads, it also stops people warning you of potential shitters and liars but hey thats buying cars private for you
could end up buying omega switches that dont fit in your dashboard 
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ShEp
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Registered: 9th Aug 05
Location: Dingwall, Highland
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
just be careful out there people, as much as this stops people shitting up your car for sale threads, it also stops people warning you of potential shitters and liars but hey thats buying cars private for you
Another Idea,....
The reporting problem users in the for sale section, its a bit of a mess,
can there not be a topped list of users that have been a problem?
I wouldnt say you need it so much for a good or well reported seller, its really of a higher importance to warn users of problematic/scammers/timewaster
and is Corsasport registered with the ripper database? heard it mentioned on MIG, its where problem users info is posted for admin of other Vauxhall sites
Just some suggestions, and trailing through that bad sellers thread is a pain
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Richie
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Registered: 3rd Dec 02
Location: Newport, Wales
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Just remember that all of this takes time and development. Time and work that Ian and Tim would need to take out of their own time........ just to sort out people not obeying a clean set of rules.
Quite unfair to Ian and Tim IMO considering what they are already providing.
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Fonz
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Registered: 12th May 06
Location: Newbury, Berks
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i know it is extra work for those involves but is it possible for authors to moderate their own classfieds? only in terms of deleting rather than fully editting.
seems the only way imo to pls both sides, ppl can give praise and give thier own personal opinion, often useful if genuine "saw this a PVS great example and a truely great sound photos dont do justice" for example while other -ve comments or useless questions can be deleted.
its a hard situation and agree with Ian its a shame it has to come to this. it annoyed the funk out of me that ppl dont think to read the FAQs or tutorials section before posting in Help Zone and Ian has good reason to be annoyed these basic rules arnt being followed and tbf their not hard to follow
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little_duke
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Registered: 21st Aug 06
Location: Tamworth,staffordshire Drives: rover coupe
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say no more
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=408365
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ShEp
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Registered: 9th Aug 05
Location: Dingwall, Highland
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quote:
Originally posted by Fonz
i know it is extra work for those involves but is it possible for authors to moderate their own classfieds? only in terms of deleting rather than fully editting.
seems the only way imo to pls both sides, ppl can give praise and give thier own personal opinion, often useful if genuine "saw this a PVS great example and a truely great sound photos dont do justice" for example while other -ve comments or useless questions can be deleted.
its a hard situation and agree with Ian its a shame it has to come to this. it annoyed the funk out of me that ppl dont think to read the FAQs or tutorials section before posting in Help Zone and Ian has good reason to be annoyed these basic rules arnt being followed and tbf their not hard to follow
But really,
Do you see the autotrader, pistonheads, or ebay ads ful of comments saying
"Diz iz a wel nice car bro init id wel by dat if i hadz da moneee"
"That is a very nice car mate, I'd buy it if I had the cash" <<<more common on Corsasport
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Fonz
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Registered: 12th May 06
Location: Newbury, Berks
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quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
But really,
Do you see the autotrader, pistonheads, or ebay ads ful of comments saying
"Diz iz a wel nice car bro init id wel by dat if i hadz da moneee"
"That is a very nice car mate, I'd buy it if I had the cash" <<<more common on Corsasport
well no, and its a good point. but they have a set format for each advert. for a start there is the chance to have a photo of the car and basic details (ie engine size, mileage) "search page" and doesnt require clicking each link to gain further details.
both are closed format. as a forum, CS is open and people know other members and in this case more importantly the cars.
If for instance Deano87, All Torque or Willay commented on my car it means alot more than if Colin or Whittie did given the distance they are from me. they either havent seen it, or only would have at PVS.
like i said its a tough situation.
to really tidy those sections up i would like to see moderation on the thread titles. in Help and Classfied they are often lacking detail "Help needed" or "my car for sale" rather than "issues with rear brakes" or "1.4 16V Flame Red Corsa 84k miles for sale/splitting" - ie, must/should include engine, colour, car (Corsa) mileage and price in title
 i sympathise with Ian and the mods as there is only so much that can be done and very little to please all
[Edited on 07-02-2008 by Fonz]
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Rob_Lee
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Registered: 9th Dec 05
Location: Folkestone Drives: Nova 1.6 16v
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I was banned
Was bit harsh to someone in Forsale thread.
Sorry Ian.
PS... His car was pretty fucking awful tho... still i shouldn't have posted crap in his thread.
My bad
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barter
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Registered: 27th Oct 07
Location: essex
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can anyone else post in there or have i been banned?
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Eck
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Registered: 17th Apr 06
Location: Lundin Links, Fife
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Jakey
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Registered: 4th Jun 07
Location: Sandbach
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quote:
Originally posted by barter
can anyone else post in there or have i been banned?
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Jambo
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Registered: 8th Sep 01
Location: Maidenhead, Drives: VXR Arctic
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Im constantly u2u'd by members off here with complaints on conduct within for sale threads. I welcome the change imo. A for sale advert is just that, an advert not a discussion thread
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Joe
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Registered: 20th Jun 04
Location: Hesketh Bank, Lancashire
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
Im constantly u2u'd by members off here with complaints on conduct within for sale threads. I welcome the change imo. A for sale advert is just that, an advert not a discussion thread
Exactly, when I was selling my car on here my post was mainly 'If I had the cash' 'Its too expensive' in the end I got one U2U off someone who was happy with the price and took it at the full price. It was a good hassle free sale and I doubt it would have sold as easily without CS but you don't need all the other comments that come with it.
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ShEp
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Registered: 9th Aug 05
Location: Dingwall, Highland
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yeah
I think mimicing the MIG platform is good, but as Ian says its more hassle and programming
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
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I posted a thread a while ago last time I was thinking about changing Classifies around and the MIG software didn't go down so well - I liked it personally.
Definately note the point that the adverts are not discussion.
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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
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the simple answer is start collecting address info for premium membership sign up, simple process to store it all in the DB. Im taking everyones address as part of the pro member sign up on vagweb. It will come in useful for future purposes too.
For sale ads can then only be made by premium members.
This isnt directly related to this problem but will help no end with the shitty sellers that keep coming on here
[Edited on 08-02-2008 by Steve]
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ShEp
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Registered: 9th Aug 05
Location: Dingwall, Highland
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Ok I think..
-20 posts or so before being able to post a for sale ad (will deter the ones that post a for sale ad and never reply)
-Allow users to bump the ads and allow moderators to post in the ads to enforce that a base price and location are shown
-also a whats it worth section would be usefull (would stop people posting in GC and encourage people to put a price on a classified ad, Used on AOC and is very usefull)
-24 hour warning and its deleted ( if there is no location or price)
I dont think there is any need to make it premium members only or gather addresses there is no need to go to that lengths
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