Cosmo
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maybe i should have gone about it differently but what about the kids that heard him say that? their faces dropped and they all looked gutted.
tbh you went about it the right way IMO, as you catered for the masses that were around, which is all you could do really, especially without knowing for sure if his Dad had told him.
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RyanSxi
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seems only those that were told at an early age are agree with the bloke here. interesting
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when your 4yrs old old father christmas should exist = fact!
in your opinion.
there just kids  wheres the christmas spirit
[Edited on 05-12-2007 by RS6]
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I can't really see another way of approaching the issue 
8 kids in the room, one says something which goes against all the others beliefs, then they're all questioning it, which creates 7 potential complaints, the ONLY way to deal with it is to say what the majority believe straight away, otherwise you end up with 7 upset kids and one who isn't.
1 complaint is easier to deal with than 7.
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i don't know about anyone else but my parents never came up to me and said, right, he isnt real its all been a lie to get you excited for christmas
i just grew out of it and realised, which i thought everyone did?
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seems only those that were told at an early age are agree with the bloke here. interesting
I wasnt told at an early age, just figured it out at 5 or 6. Never did me any harm, Ive no problem with kids knowing up until 7 or 8 (where they should really of figured it out for themselves if they have half a brain).
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when your 4yrs old old father christmas should exist = fact!
in your opinion.
there just kids wheres the christmas spirit
Why not teah them that its all about the son of christ being born, and not Santa?
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seems only those that were told at an early age are agree with the bloke here. interesting
I wasnt told at an early age, just figured it out at 5 or 6. Never did me any harm, Ive no problem with kids knowing up until 7 or 8 (where they should really of figured it out for themselves if they have half a brain).
exactly, let the kids figure it out for themselves, not be told
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We do that too but then other parents complain becaussee theyre jews or something else
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i don't know about anyone else but my parents never came up to me and said, right, he isnt real its all been a lie to get you excited for christmas
i just grew out of it and realised, which i thought everyone did?
same here theres no real need to for kids to be told they should be able to work it out for themselves
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Never did me any harm
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exactly, let the kids figure it out for themselves, not be told
why? If thy dont want them to beleive in Santa then why not tell them?
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Never did me any harm
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No, I agree, but making them understand that respecting other people's beliefs is important.
at 4
Yeah that's the best time to teach them! If you let them run around being little fuckers at that age then you're never going to recover it.
No, I understand its the best time, but trying to inform a 4yr old of your own beliefs, let alone those of others and respecting them, isnt exactly something understood by all.
Yeah I know what you're saying but in this situation all that needed to be said was that Father Christmas isn't real but it might upset some of the other children if they find out. Then just tell them that they have to be grown up and keep it to themselves. Most kids would accept that imo.
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exactly, let the kids figure it out for themselves, not be told
why? If thy dont want them to beleive in Santa then why not tell them?
thing is hes had no choice because his dad has already told him hes not real
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exactly, let the kids figure it out for themselves, not be told
why? If thy dont want them to beleive in Santa then why not tell them?
why tell them either way? just let them believe what they want, after all they are 4
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Yeah I know what you're saying but in this situation all that needed to be said was that Father Christmas isn't real but it might upset some of the other children if they find out. Then just tell them that they have to be grown up and keep it to themselves. Most kids would accept that imo.
Yeah, I agree totally, but not all 4yr olds would keep their mouth shut. Some would understand fine, some just wouldnt have a clue, and others just like to push the boundaries and say shit!!
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why tell them either way? just let them believe what they want, after all they are 4
He obviously doesnt want him thinking that a fat man comes and gives him presents. Could be for one of 1,000,000 reasons personal to himself, and at the end of the day its his choice with it being his kid. Just because you dont agree with it doesnt mean that everyone in the world shouldnt tell their kids the truth.
I mean why stop at Santa...God, tooth fairy, easter bunny, leprechauns, gold at the end of a rainbow, fairies, pixies, unicorns, etc.
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Merry fucking Christmas Maybe you should tell him that the Grinch is going to come down the chimley on Christmas Eve to steal all the presents. At least that way his dad gets to have a similar conversation to the other 7 parents.
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exactly, let the kids figure it out for themselves, not be told
why? If thy dont want them to beleive in Santa then why not tell them?
One of my nieces believes in fairies and pixies because she's 6, why ruin the dream for her?
One of my nephews thinks Ipswich Town are a good team, why ruin that?
Another niece (who is 8) believes that stars are the spirits of dead people, and that her grandad (my dad) is keeping an eye on here from the sky, to make sure she's ok, what is the point in telling her otherwise?
They're all young and innocent, there's no need to say "no, that's a load of shit, it's not real" when they're 4/5/6/7/8, it's all part of being a kid.
[Edited on 05-12-2007 by Robin]
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I mean why stop at Santa...God, tooth fairy, easter bunny, leprechauns, gold at the end of a rainbow, fairies, pixies, unicorns, etc.
I should have waited and quoted this
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I've just skimmed over this quickly but it looks like a lot of people are arguing for the sake of it.
Santa is one of the main themes of xmas, keeps the kids happy.
I'm really dissapointed xmas isn't the way it used to be and the people who claim they knew when they were born he wasn't real bla bla bla are either talking rubbish or had rubbish childhoods.
As fo religions/cultures that don't believe in santa fair enough but to my knowledge they all have something along the lines of xmas anyway.
Steve and Cosmo are a right couple of scrooges.
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Robin, that is all in your opinion. Others dont see it that way, for whatever reason they have, so why should it matter what they tell their kids?
Some will bring them up thinking God is real, others wont, you got a problem with either of these?
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this child doesnt even really celebrate his birthday. i feel sorry for him
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I have a problem with that cosmo.
Children shouldn't be brought up to be able to make their own choices and if they want continue what beliefs the parents had then thats fair.
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