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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by muppetsport
i have friends older than me that are scared of their 15 year old son, and another that are scared of their 16 year old daughter as they dont know what they are going to do next.

whos fault is that? the government. its also the governments fault for all the familys on benefit, making it so easy for them to get cash and live like fuck ups. dont give them the money, they will have to get a job, if they earn money they will have more respect for the things they have/own.



WTF?? how can you directly blame the government if the kids are brought up to be lil rebels and the parents are scared of them , what a joke

if the parents were harder on them in the first place, i very much doubt the kids would be the way they are


how can i not directly blame the government? have you read any of the thread? its the governments fault parents arent harder on their kids. was the country this out of control in the 1980's? perhaps not. i wonder why that was mather? please tell us your views mather
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does this include papers?
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You cant be hard on children thesse days,e.g you cant smack them.



he obviously isnt a parent then i take it! so by smacking your kids your going to turn them away from drugs, underage drinking, crime etc etc??

no your not imo

neway i cba with arguing
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
You cant be hard on children thesse days,e.g you cant smack them.



he obviously isnt a parent then i take it! so by smacking your kids your going to turn them away from drugs, underage drinking, crime etc etc??

no your not imo

neway i cba with arguing


what? so your saying discipline isnt the answer? what is the answer then? when i was a youngun you would never dream of giving people shit for no reason as you would take a hiding from it, and that was accepted. now, if a youth smashes you over the head, you turn round to fight them back its you that gets locked up.

you are never going to stop all kids taking drugs or drinking, but you could control them more unlike today, theyre just wild animals now, some of them dont deserve to be treated as humans
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was the country this out of control in the 1980's? perhaps not. i wonder why that was mather? please tell us your views mather

Do you want to share with us something about your child hood Mupster?
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its the governments fault parents arent harder on their kids. was the country this out of control in the 1980's? perhaps not.


how has the government changed the way in which parents bring up there children in the last 25 years? apart from not allowing parents to beat up there children
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Originally posted by Mather.16v
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
You cant be hard on children thesse days,e.g you cant smack them.



he obviously isnt a parent then i take it! so by smacking your kids your going to turn them away from drugs, underage drinking, crime etc etc??

no your not imo

neway i cba with arguing


My grandad used to use a belt on me and my brother.(trust me it hurts)and it put me off getting in trouble.

love my grandad to bits but hes strict on us, and to be fair id never grass him up for hitting us with a belt.and im 24 now and he still threatens the belt on us and to be fair i wouldnt dream of hittin him back.

So in some cases a good smack can help.

Yes i still drunk,still messed about and still smoked but i was always scared he would find out.so i wouldnt drink smoke etc on the streets lol


My sister has a 2year old daughter she smacks her when shes naughty and it works she stops being naughty.i dont like seeing her hit her but if it works who am i to say dont


[Edited on 01-10-2007 by nova_gteuk]
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Originally posted by muppetsport
its the governments fault parents arent harder on their kids. was the country this out of control in the 1980's? perhaps not.


how has the government changed the way in which parents bring up there children in the last 25 years? apart from not allowing parents to beat up there children


exactly just that. and look at the difference of todays kids compared to those in the 70's and 80's

ask older members if you dont believe me. when you were young and you did something wrong or bad, you feared a smack round the head off the old man. it made you think twice about doing such things. now what the kids get? nothing? so they carry on.

chav culture wasnt around, because kids didnt think they were untouchable like they do these days.
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That and there are too many poor people.
Nic Barnes
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That and there are too many poor people.


poor people has nothing to do with it. im from a poor background yet i respect others and other peoples property
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this is gonna piss me off. im 17 and i smoke have done for a while if i get id'd im gonna get pissed off
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i fail to understand peoples needs for ass kissing. ian doesnt speak the truth, he just says it the way he sees it, like everyone else. it doesnt make it the truth at all.


I just share his thoughts thats all, if i posted my own comments it would be covering the same ground.
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this is gonna piss me off. im 17 and i smoke have done for a while if i get id'd im gonna get pissed off


id just wonder that by the time your 19, you have to be 21 to drink in any club or pub or buy alcohol from anywhere. that would be a right shitter. but probably will happen
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Originally posted by Mather.16v
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Originally posted by muppetsport
its the governments fault parents arent harder on their kids. was the country this out of control in the 1980's? perhaps not.


how has the government changed the way in which parents bring up there children in the last 25 years? apart from not allowing parents to beat up there children


exactly just that. and look at the difference of todays kids compared to those in the 70's and 80's

ask older members if you dont believe me. when you were young and you did something wrong or bad, you feared a smack round the head off the old man. it made you think twice about doing such things. now what the kids get? nothing? so they carry on.

chav culture wasnt around, because kids didnt think they were untouchable like they do these days.


i can say this is true
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lolz
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HARSFSS
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HARSFSS


what the fuck williams?
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Hairy Antelopes Shovaling Foamy Soap Suds?
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Hairy Antelopes Shovaling Foamy Soap Suds?


ok
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its the same in nature, animals discipline there young by using some force or another, people obey fear, and you dont need bad violence to impose enough fear, a small amount will suffice
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1st Oct 07 at 18:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looks like I'll be getting ID'd more often then...
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how do you get more often than every time?

joking aside if you're over 18 taking the extra second to get ID is hardly a big ballache
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It just takes the piss when I'm 20.

They do it every time. Even if I've been in the day before. It's rediculous.
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It just takes the piss when I'm 20.

They do it every time. Even if I've been in the day before. It's rediculous.


do you look 20 or 16?
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She looks 16 hence why she will be id'd

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