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Daimo B
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27th Jul 07 at 11:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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One of my mates from school got right into smoking cannabis from an early age, 5 years on he becomes a recluse, stops playing football which he loved & was very good at, ends up very paranoid & stops coming out completelly, within another 5 years he's been sectioned under the mental health act several times then ended up taking his own life.

I think its a bad drug as I cannot see anything else that send my mate the way he went. Im by no means anti drugs btw but I could never become a stonner or adicted to anything. Once it stops being a bit of fun & you get addicted & into serious usage your asking for trouble!!


How many was he smoking daily?

As said previously, different things effect some people different ways. I love G-force, many absolutly hate it and are sick.

But again, its about self control, knowing when too much is too much.

PS, i still play football every week, and look how long i have been smoking. I may come accross as arrogent on here, but you can say im not dumb or stupid, my head is screwed on right.

But i've also said previously, it effects younger peoples minds a lot more. Once your over 20'ish, your more of an adult (physically and mentally). When your in your teens you think your an adult, but you haven't got the foggyest idea who you really are yet. Your brain is still learning who it is, smoking green is a VERY bad idea at this kinda age (teens).

But I never started smoking until i was 19 odd, and then I was on solid, which is far worse for you than green.

Again, also helps my theory from that that i've read and learned about so far.

As you say colin, your mate was on it at an early age.
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Anyone else suffer memory loss? Like as soon as your told something forget it?


This is one of the side effects and my most noticable problem.

But then again, Donna met me before i was smoking, and she said I had the memory of a siv back then . I think its aided it, but hasn't had a major downfall in my memory. It wasn't there to begin with

But again, i only find this when im actually smoking. When im at work during the day, or if im out somewhere, it doesn't effect me so bad.
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No idea I think it was soapy (solids) & as often as possible maybe from the age of 15

Most of the guys done it ( I had a go but didnt like it, made me feel like shit & I prefered spending my pocket money on a bottle of buckfast tbh ) they would often bunk off school to get stonned, often making bongs or smoking it through a can to get totally wasted. Most of them stopped but certainly for one of them it wasted hs life, no doubt about it.

Yes all things effect people differently, I have no problem with people taking drugs so long as they dont make it into a problem for themselves. Ive seen 1 mate dead, several in hospital & a couple in jail - all 100% drugs related. These are the people that cant control themselves in one way or another.

Ive been known to take a puff of a joint if im already drunk, odd ekky in a club, wee line here & there - though admit not for about 3 years now, think ive grown up a bit & see past getting mullared Waking up without a hangover &/or comedown is a blessing in disguise.

Drugs are ok, so long as your ok with them, otherwise your gonna get your fingers burned!!

[Edited on 27-07-2007 by Colin]
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I think it made me more special.
Daimo B
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I've heard rumours of tarmac, mud, even old engine oil going into mixtures of solid. I don't touch the stuff, nasty nasty chemical stuff.

Thats another reason i hate dealers. Sometime you get stuff, and i've had one batch that tasted very "plastic." Didn't make us feel well, we didn't smoke it all.

Again, if i could go to somewhere that only allows you to buy small quantities, but decent stuff, then I would, as would many others I think. Even if it worked out more expensive.

It would reduce the dealers (not eliminate it, but help it), and those that can't afford it (usually the types that end up dossers anyway) simply can't, they aint got no cash. They aint gonna steal just for weed. Thats desperation. And should have a large can of whoop ass opened on them.
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Heroin is not actually a very damaging drug if you take it pure,


Lets start dishing out Heroin at school lunchtimes then eh, honest to god


Dont make yourself look any more silly by taking my quotes out of context-- read what I actually wrote... I was clearly talking about controlling its supply to users as part of a rehab programme


Text Red. The only person making themselves look silly is you.

I can see your argument for the legalisation of cannabis but i'm questioning the motive behind it, is it for the greater good or is it so you can get high more often?


Pure heroin, at a controlled dosage has very few negative effects on the body, it is only a killer because of the nasty things it is cut with and because of how much the pureness of the drug varies
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Originally posted by K2 GTi
Anyone else suffer memory loss? Like as soon as your told something forget it?


Yes, definately. I'll be sat watching TV at home, then i'll get up to do something and literally forget straight away and just be stood there
I then get mega pissed off at myself because I can't remember

At work I have about 50 post-it notes all around my desk to remind me to do stuff It's not funny really
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ive smoked it a bit over the years and tbh i think its caused my stutter/mixing words, that or i have alzhymers or something
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I've jsut listened to a radio news report about cannabis.

The largest study.. Can i ask if ANYONE at all head anything about this study? I would ahve taken part, I feel I could contribute a great deal due to my experiences.

They also said how it "Could" cause damage "up to" 40% of people who smoke it WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG. What about adult smokers, what about the other 60%, what is the governments toll on how many people smoke cannabis in this country.

But we knew this already, its been well documented that teens will suffer a lot more than an adult smoker.

So what has it actually achieved the "poll" Who did they interview, what age group.

See what I mean, happy to quote random facts and figure, but when it comes to the actual details, they are always left out.

Anyone got any links to this so called "poll" because i'd love to see what they've actually investigated.



[Edited on 27-07-2007 by VXR]
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Stoned right now tbh
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I can't wait to get home. With all this talk about weed before lunch, I spotted some blunt wraps in the newsagent, so I bought an apple flavoured one
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Brett! come round my way lol I'll share my weed, you share yours. ding dang do
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How about we just smoke yours?
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Fine by me
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I can't wait to get home. With all this talk about weed before lunch, I spotted some blunt wraps in the newsagent, so I bought an apple flavoured one


I think they things are stinking

My mate bought a che guevera tin that rolls 1 skins as perfect as a cigarette, i'm quite amazed by the thing
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I don't mind people smoking it. I've tried it once but really didnt like it. I suppose a group of lads sitting at home smoking weed is much better than them all out getting drunk and fighting etc.

I do think that if your a constant user then it will affect your body in someway or another, obviously different in different people.

Although cannabis is the only drug that I don't think anything's wrong in taking it.

I don't like seeing people do coke and e's though. IMO when you start doing the "Harder" drugs your life aint worth anything no more. As i don't know many people at all that have not became a recovered addict.

I live in town and the amount of smack heads I see is a disgrace. Needles in the entry's at the back of my house. It's a sad world when it comes to that!
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My mate bought a che guevera tin that rolls 1 skins as perfect as a cigarette, i'm quite amazed by the thing


My rolling skills are amazing tho, even if I do say so myself. I have been smoking for years after all. The perfect cone
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I've found my skills have deteriorated over the years through using a mat and getting lazy.
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So no-one heard anything aobut this poll then?
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So no-one heard anything aobut this poll then?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4352496.stm

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Still no facts though. Just a study on 1000 odd people....

The study was done combining 35 previous studies.......

But all i can see they say that it COULD cause issues with mentality, but again, all the reults i've seen are from peopel who've smoked from an early teen age..

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i wish id kinda read that link lol, i didnt think it was about political leaders and drugs
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My brother smoke its day in day out hes addicted to the stuff i hate the smell though.my father has a go at him saying it will fuck u up in the long run but he just lights up a join everytime he starts

Hes been smoking it snce hes was 14/15 and hes now 23,nothing wrong with him apart from the mood swings if he aint got any dope lol i hate the stuff its disgusting.
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Aye, if your smoking too much its easy to see from an outsider. When you get mood swings when you don't smoke it.

If i've been on a big session while playing the boys at poker or something, and don't smoke much the next day, it can make me moody.

Although tbh, if your brothers sparking one up when your old man moans at him, it sounds more like a rebellion phase that still hasn't passed.
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The Radio1 report is bollocks.

One guy said that he started to feel paranoid after less than 5 minutes after a toke.

Fuck right off, shitty scare tactics

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