John
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Why would a White British person want to blow up themselves and other people on buses, trains etc etc 
I don't know of any cases of suicide IRA bombings, or intentionally hurting any civilian?
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andy1868
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that isn't the point, the point is that white british are willing to blow up other british people, whether they blow themselves up is irrelevant.
EDIT: are you being serious? how many military targets are there in Manchester city centre? killing civilians was totally intentional
[Edited on 08-03-2007 by andy1868]
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John
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Also, the people doing the blowing up would probably blow you up to point out they aren't British.
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andy1868
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also irrelevant
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John
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It's still terrorism but not for the same reasons as the other types that they are being compared to.
They had a reason.
Innocent deaths are alway bad though.
I don't think its a fair comparison though tbh.
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andy1868
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we're arguing different points  i was just stating that the IRA were willing to kill people, civilian or military. whether they have the same reasons isn't part of the argument.
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marklaruk
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they should have smashed her into next year
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Scott M
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I haven't actually read all the posts in her but, to all those who harp on about there being 5 cops restraining the woman, have a think about why that might be. Its because of all the rulkes that govern the way they can deal with people.
So quoting PACE as a defence for her, especially when quoting it incorrectly, is niether her nor there, if they were gonna use excessive force they could have just give her swift clubbing and been done with it.
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chris-sri
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Exactly right. PACE is there to protect Police Officers as much as it is there to protect the public.
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abdus
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PACE has guidelines on arrests. You have to follow the rules.
PACE isn't there to protect or provide a defence for anybody.
She won't be able to use PACE but an enquiry can lead to actions being taken against the officer for not followig the guidelines.
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SXi_Tim
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The scruffy bitch was out the back of the biggest shithole in the whole of Sheffield - a club called vibe..imo he should have hit her harder 
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a_j_mair
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nothing wrong with it imo
bout time we got tough with criminals
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by andy1868
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Originally posted by All Torque
Why would a White British person want to blow up themselves and other people on buses, trains etc etc
http://www.tkb.org/documents/Groups/GR55_iramural.jpg
Ignorance is bliss eh Andy, the IRA used to go onto buses and trains with bombs strapped to their back because their holy bible says so?
Please refrain from commenting when you have no idea what you are talking about 
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Scott M
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Of course it has guidelines, and the fact that there were 5 cops attests to the fact that they are following them, under the official procedures and techniques it is damn near impossible to restrain someone one on one if they want to fight.
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andy1868
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you what mate? this has been argued before. the point was that white british people blew other white british people up, whether it was suicide or for their holy bible is irrelevant, christ.
[Edited on 10-03-2007 by andy1868]
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Hammer
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Originally posted by andy1868
you what mate? this has been argued before. the point was that white british people blew other white british people up, whether it was suicide or for their holy bible is irrelevant, christ.
[Edited on 10-03-2007 by andy1868]
No the fact you brought it up wins the prize for being irrelevant believe me, there is no comparison to be made.
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Robbo
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Watch some of the youtube vids re. the miners strike 84-85 foir some examples of (fair) police brutality lol
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andy1868
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all torque said white people don't feel the need to blow up other white people, i was pointing out the fact that they clearly do.
once again you aren't adressing my argument, so either address it or STFU
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John
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You said white british people tbh, they are definitely not british.
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andy1868
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so people from northern ireland aren't british? although i suppose that is a matter of opinion, afterall
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Hammer
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all torque said white people don't feel the need to blow up other white people, i was pointing out the fact that they clearly do.
once again you aren't adressing my argument, so either address it or STFU
Address what argument? you posted a picture of a republican murial you searched for on google images that you have no idea who done or what it stands for in reply to something irrelevant, so drop the childish stfu comments.
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andy1868
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since when were you aware of what i do and do not know?
my argument was that white british people blow up other white british people, contrary to what all torque said, would you like in any more simple? i keep repeating myself, when are you going to read it?
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so people from northern ireland aren't british? although i suppose that is a matter of opinion, afterall
Actually, no they aren't
They are Northern Irish hence our country being called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland...
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Originally posted by Scott M
Of course it has guidelines, and the fact that there were 5 cops attests to the fact that they are following them, under the official procedures and techniques it is damn near impossible to restrain someone one on one if they want to fight.
Agree on that. But my point isn't the number of officers here, but the force used in the arrest.
And also, they dragged her with her jeans (or whatever) around her ankle. There is nothing to justify this
imo
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She was spitting, biting, grabbing his balls, flailing her arms around trying to grab/scratch etc...
They don't have time to stop and say 'Would you like to pull your trousers up love?' and if they had, she would have kicked off again...
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