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Salford in 1984.... and yes when in 1991 they were crap... watched the younguns come through, and did everything i could to get tickets being from newcastle, do my best to get to every game around work, and recently got my season ticket.... I will happily pay the fuel in my turbo to drive down to see them play  IMO i do pretty well !
thats cool, I have nothing but respect for people who have a genuine reason for supporting a club outside of where they live, especially those who still travel to go and support them.
Its the glory supporters that follow them like they are life long fans that annoy me, but saying that 90% of them now support Chelsea anyway!
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Salford in 1984.... and yes when in 1991 they were crap... watched the younguns come through, and did everything i could to get tickets being from newcastle, do my best to get to every game around work, and recently got my season ticket.... I will happily pay the fuel in my turbo to drive down to see them play IMO i do pretty well !
thats cool, I have nothing but respect for people who have a genuine reason for supporting a club outside of where they live, especially those who still travel to go and support them.
Its the glory supporters that follow them like they are life long fans that annoy me, but saying that 90% of them now support Chelsea anyway!
Like J'Oshea said... we are no longer the most hated club in England.... LOL
any of my ex girlfriend will tell you I am a die hard Man Utd fan  ... but agree with what you have said to be honest
stretford end next season though !!
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Fcuk Lampard, Gerrard etc its all about my drinking pal Neil Webb
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i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.
Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard
Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack
Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals 
Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??
[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]
There cant be a question about who has the best midfield, Alonso, Gerrard and Sissoko easily win that, even in my biased opinion! The new winger we've already signed (Gonzalez) has looked amazing on loan in Spain even though he has only been fit since Feb and is amazingly fast.
I think Rafa will look to sign a right sided player too, possibly someone like Joaquin who has said he wants to come to Liverpool in the past. Or maybe SWP if he does become available (I highly doubt it to us)
If liverpool try to sign Joaquin then im sure chelsea will bid aswell. they dont like the thought of other teams getting stronger so they try to prevent it by throwing money at the situation. SWP is a prime example, and from what i seen on saturday when watching the FA cup final, Ian Wright seems to think SWP would love it at Liverpool, however as said before chelsea won't sell to their rivals.
Iv also heard very good things about Mark Gonzalez. I think Rafa is building a squad where everyone will be happy, where as Chelsea there are always going to be players that are un-happy about not getting a game.
Players like Duff, SWP, Geremi, Wayne Bridge more than likely will not get a game next season. Gudjohnsen has gone from a regular striker to a bit part midfielder in the space of 2 seasons.
Will be an interesting season next year 
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If liverpool try to sign Joaquin then im sure chelsea will bid aswell. they dont like the thought of other teams getting stronger so they try to prevent it by throwing money at the situation. SWP is a prime example, and from what i seen on saturday when watching the FA cup final, Ian Wright seems to think SWP would love it at Liverpool, however as said before chelsea won't sell to their rivals.
Iv also heard very good things about Mark Gonzalez. I think Rafa is building a squad where everyone will be happy, where as Chelsea there are always going to be players that are un-happy about not getting a game.
Players like Duff, SWP, Geremi, Wayne Bridge more than likely will not get a game next season. Gudjohnsen has gone from a regular striker to a bit part midfielder in the space of 2 seasons.
Will be an interesting season next year
then it comes down to the individual players. If they say they dont want to go to Chelsea then the club will either have to accept the lower offer or risk the player going on a free when the contract runs out. Owen was in a similar position last year when Newcastle offered more than us, if he had kept his bottle he would of been a Liverpool player this year.
Ive heard that about SWP before. Liverpool had an official bid in for him when Chelsea came in with their bid, City took that and he stupidly went there.
Will be an interesting summer with some big decisions for some players I think, will have to see what happens and if Chelsea can still get everything their way!
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I can tell you now for fact Owen is only at Newcastle for the money
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I can tell you now for fact Owen is only at Newcastle for the money
he is at Newcastle because he wanted to play first team football, in England, before the world cup.
We offered 12mil, Newcastle offered 16mil. If owen had said no to Newcaslte then Real would of accepted Liverpools offer and he would of been playing for us. He bottled it as didnt want to risk not moving and thats where he ended up. Its his own fault and hope he stays there and they do what they always do, win fuck all.
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I can tell you now for fact Owen is only at Newcastle for the money
he is at Newcastle because he wanted to play first team football, in England, before the world cup.
We offered 12mil, Newcastle offered 16mil. If owen had said no to Newcaslte then Real would of accepted Liverpools offer and he would of been playing for us. He bottled it as didnt want to risk not moving and thats where he ended up. Its his own fault and hope he stays there and they do what they always do, win fuck all.
The Toon are as hungary as anyone... thats all I can say considering, all my friends are geordies, they like Owen, but they know about the money situation
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The toon will win fuck all with clowns like Bramble and Boumsong at the back...
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i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.
Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard
Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack
Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals
Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??
[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]
Makalele's job is to sit and hold, sweep anything up that comes through Lampard and soon to be Ballack, that's what a holding midfielder does, not only that if Gallas or Terry get dragged wide then he can just sit in for them until they get their shape back, again, in his job description, let Lampard and Ballack do the attacking while he does his job 100% correctly.
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I think it will be interesting to see Ballack and Lampard in the same line up... I think they will conflict each other... you ALWAYS need a defensive midfielder in some way.. they are both advancing middle of the park people.... we will see what happens
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i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.
Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard
Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack
Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals
Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??
[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]
So what if Ballack is 29 years old.....why are people saying hes not that good. Have any of you even watched any of his performances this season?
His performances have been above that of Frank Lampard and he's been on par with Gerrard.
[Edited on 15-05-2006 by Jamescorsa97]
I agree Ballack has been brill for Munich, I seriously hope Lampard and Joe Cole move clubs though, for their own sake.
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id love Joe Cole at United
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Joe Cole to replace Giggs would be superb.
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Joe Cole to replace Giggs would be superb.
can not agree more with that
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Joe Cole on the right for Liverpool, would accept that
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Joe Cole on the right for Liverpool, would accept that
would never happen.... more chance of Utd.... but still a slim chance... not worth us thinking about it really
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Joe Cole on the right for Liverpool, would accept that
would never happen.... more chance of Utd.... but still a slim chance... not worth us thinking about it really
not really sure how their is more chance of Utd getting him 
But yeah, even if Chelsea did decide to sell (which they wont) it wont be to the two closest rivals.
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Joe Cole on the right for Liverpool, would accept that
would never happen.... more chance of Utd.... but still a slim chance... not worth us thinking about it really
not really sure how their is more chance of Utd getting him
But yeah, even if Chelsea did decide to sell (which they wont) it wont be to the two closest rivals.
just my opinion, im not opening a can of worms, but JC is a big name kinda guy.... Man Utd... big stadium... worldwide recognition.... generally would suit him really... plus we could handle the wage demands.... whats your teams biggest weekly wage?? gerrard 70k ?
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just my opinion, im not opening a can of worms, but JC is a big name kinda guy.... Man Utd... big stadium... worldwide recognition.... generally would suit him really... plus we could handle the wage demands.... whats your teams biggest weekly wage?? gerrard 70k ?
Gerrard is on 95k (signed last year), could possibly even be 100k.
big stadium...worldwide recognition...not won anything for a while now...not on the way up like liverpool...dont kid yourself that you now have money your more in debt than ANY football club in the world...etc...
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just my opinion, im not opening a can of worms, but JC is a big name kinda guy.... Man Utd... big stadium... worldwide recognition.... generally would suit him really... plus we could handle the wage demands.... whats your teams biggest weekly wage?? gerrard 70k ?
Gerrard is on 95k (signed last year), could possibly even be 100k.
big stadium...worldwide recognition...not won anything for a while now...not on the way up like liverpool...dont kid yourself that you now have money your more in debt than ANY football club in the world...etc...
dam knew id get this with a Liverpool fan
cant be arsed for a debate tonight.... Manchester United are bigger than Liverpool..... simply put... anyone will tell you that... no matter how you try and justify they are not...
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dam knew id get this with a Liverpool fan
cant be arsed for a debate tonight.... Manchester United are bigger than Liverpool..... simply put... anyone will tell you that... no matter how you try and justify they are not...
this is typical Utd fan comments though...still kidding yourself that your miles ahead of every team in the Premiership.
Your massively in debt and you wont have anymore cash available to you than Liverpool will this summer, regardless of how many your ground holds. Liverpool would have no trouble filling a 70k ground week in week out so dont pretend you have more support willing to fill a stadium. Your games are like going to the library its that quiet. You are on the decline (you cant argue with that) and havent won anything major for a while now. You no longer have the ability to attract big name players (Ballack for example) and I think you'll find that this summer.
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we have 35m this summer... your manager has already stated your budget is not massive
we are not on a decline... this year we are 2nd (compared to 3rd last year) and have a trophy
which big names do you have apart from Gerrard (one man team) please f off with your Crouch crap.. he is shite
Liverpool will not have a ground to hold 70k for a LONG time
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plus i think its ironic... im from newastle... and your from Manchester on a friendly note !!
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