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Robbo

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1st Jul 13 at 21:02

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JB has always sucked

Kyle T

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1st Jul 13 at 21:04

From how I read it, Mercedes COULD attend the YDT which is no longer a YDT but they chose not to in the name of fairness.

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An FIA statement said Mercedes, who were banned from the young driver test for using their 2013 car in a Pirelli test in May, had "in the interests of the sport accepted to not participate in the (Silverstone) test".

Fair play tbh.

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JonnyJ

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1st Jul 13 at 21:11

Good sports. Dont get thay very often in F1, fair play

Ryan

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1st Jul 13 at 21:16

Horner would have had a full on break down if Mercedes were allowed to test. I don't think the sport needs more controversy atm anyway, the right decision

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1st Jul 13 at 21:18

Didn't realise f1 tyres only cost 350 quid each thought they'd be much more

JonnyJ

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1st Jul 13 at 21:20

They only last about 40odd miles though tbf

Pretty poor value overall.

[Edited on 01-07-2013 by JonnyJ]

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1st Jul 13 at 21:21

Quite expensive when you consider each team is issued with about 150 per weekend, and any non used ones (wets etc) are sent back to be destroyed/recycled anyway

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JonnyJ

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1st Jul 13 at 21:29

Think Steve wants some for his race car

Steve

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1st Jul 13 at 21:35

Lol considering the amount of money that's chucked around it doesn't seem like much

Robbo

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2nd Jul 13 at 08:32

just saw this on the intranet - how ironic

Kyle T

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2nd Jul 13 at 10:31

No worky, I hope you're not trying to link it from your INTRAnet

2012 construction is back for this weekend.

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Robbo

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2nd Jul 13 at 10:34

from a weblink. Its the McLaren and on the sidepod it says ultrafast 4G instead of vodafone

Ben G

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2nd Jul 13 at 16:51

Cheap. Tyres flol. You'd be pretty pissed if your 35 quid toyos lasted less than 50 miles, steve.

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2nd Jul 13 at 16:53

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Race drivers can drive the cars in the 'young drivers' test now....oops Merc

Wouldn't make much difference imo, in terms of having a competitive advantage.

Lewis is at his peak and is getting the most out of the car right now.

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2nd Jul 13 at 17:14

Lewis may be but the car can always improve, and testing with a known quantity will always be better than throwing an extra variable (young driver) into the car.

I think the Merc is looking pretty good right now, but missing the test will most definitely hurt them.

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Robin

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2nd Jul 13 at 18:14

Anyone seen the Pirelli press release?

ALL the cars who suffered had the rear tyres the wrong way round!

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2nd Jul 13 at 18:38

quote:
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Lewis may be but the car can always improve, and testing with a known quantity will always be better than throwing an extra variable (young driver) into the car.

I think the Merc is looking pretty good right now, but missing the test will most definitely hurt them.

My worry is Red Bull make the most of of it out of anyone, bring a few awesome upgrades and run away into the distance. Ferrari dont really need to learn too much about the tyres, they'll use it to get some more reliable aero results seeing as they are struggling to get their upgrades to work IRL.

Hopefully wont hurt Merc too much, with Ferrari falling further behind in Quali they look the only team capable of dealing with RB at the moment. Unless we want a 4th Vettel title in 4 years, people should be hoping Merc continue their improvement.

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2nd Jul 13 at 18:40

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Anyone seen the Pirelli press release?

ALL the cars who suffered had the rear tyres the wrong way round!

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2nd Jul 13 at 18:51

Reeks a bit of passing the buck and defensive excuses, how can a slick be directional? could maybe understand with the wets...

Of course there maybe be structures in the tyre itself that is affected and id be interested to see any info on that

[Edited on 02-07-2013 by Steve]

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2nd Jul 13 at 19:13

Even still, its Pirelli's fuck up . They mount the tyres! The tyre's current design is asymmetrical meaning they are only meant to be used on a certain corner of the car.

Its still a very poor standard of work on Pirelli's behalf.

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2nd Jul 13 at 19:59

Funny enough before the race on Sky they were talking about how some teams will swap round the tyres to make them last a bit longer if they have been used in quali

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2nd Jul 13 at 20:01

Any one got any details on how it matters if a LH rear is fitted to a RH corner and vice versa?

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2nd Jul 13 at 20:05

Makes sense, the left usually takes a hammering on clockwise circuits. Didnt realise the tyres were side specific though.

It will be really interesting to see how this all plays out, I've never known such a change like this mid season. In theory it probably means Kimi's hopes are over, they cant even qualify on these tyres never mind harder ones that run cooler. Alonso's could also be in doubt, they suffer like Lotus but not quite to the same extent. FI are another, although, they just seem to be able to not wear their tyres and could still qualify ok, wonder of they could pull a 1 stop?

On paper it seems like dream news from Merc and RB.

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2nd Jul 13 at 21:25

1) Rear tyres that were mounted the wrong way round: in other words, the right hand tyre being placed where the left hand one should be and vice versa, on the cars that suffered failures. The tyres supplied this year have an asymmetric structure, which means that they are not designed to be interchangeable. The sidewalls are designed in such a way to deal with specific loads on the internal and external sides of the tyre. So swapping the tyres round has an effect on how they work in certain conditions. In particular, the external part is designed to cope with the very high loads that are generated while cornering at a circuit as demanding as Silverstone, with its rapid left-hand bends and some kerbs that are particularly aggressive.

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/193112/1/pirellis_british_grand_prix_statement_in_full.html

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3rd Jul 13 at 06:45

Blaming camber of the circuit

jesus christ, they're clutching at straws.

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