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rustyarchs
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im i missing something here? if you get 15000 over 70 years in a lump sum, and im assuming your 20ish if your driving a jag so say 40-45 years you would be working before retirement anyway...doesnt that work out to something like 25 grand ish a year over the working life?

kinda just scanned through the topic so maybe i missed something out

anyway buddy hope all ends up ok for you
Ojc
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3rd Oct 09 at 21:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If Dan was on 22k a year remember that is 22k before tax, but if this is 15k a year that isn't taxable it won't be a massive difference.

But then you have to factor in that in 40 odd years 15k a year is going to be peanuts.

If you get it in a lump sum it should help, get a nice house for 200k and then speak to an IFA to sort out what to do with the rest.
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The money wont be a lump sum I wouldnt of thought, not saying it will be each and every year but think it will be paid in instalments.

And Im certain it would be taxed, although as I said he'll no doubt be able to claim incapacity benefit given he cant work so will probably claim a lot of it back.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
The money wont be a lump sum I wouldnt of thought, not saying it will be each and every year but think it will be paid in instalments.

And Im certain it would be taxed, although as I said he'll no doubt be able to claim incapacity benefit given he cant work so will probably claim a lot of it back.


Generally it goes into trust..

And Its tax free.
dangsi
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6th Oct 09 at 12:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thanks every one for you help and support

had a phone call 2 day from solictors they have a offer from the company of

£22.000 a year for 70 years

they have advised me to turn down the offer as they say will not benifical to me to accept the offer

the company have been on the phone to my solictors all morning and want to settle amalicby out of court settlement

no press and no court and no hassle but not sure if i should accept

i have a few more things to get sorted

i have physio , a sleep theripsit and clinical psycoloights to see in the nxt few weeks and s specialist to do with black outs

they said get that out the way and see what the specialist suggets recovery wise if i will recovery full or not

dangsi
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6th Oct 09 at 12:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

then decide weather i want the settlement or not
AndyKent
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6th Oct 09 at 12:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is that sum tax free though or not?
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hope you get it all sorted and get a fair amount that you deserve

alot of men and women come back from war and get diddly squat so think yourself lucky, it could be alot worse
dangsi
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im not sure if it will be tax free or not i wil find out
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Reject it, ask for more.
dangsi
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quote:
Originally posted by a_j_mair
hope you get it all sorted and get a fair amount that you deserve

alot of men and women come back from war and get diddly squat so think yourself lucky, it could be alot worse


cheers pal i hope to get every think sorted out aswell
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6th Oct 09 at 13:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Over the 18months, is your condition improving at all?

What i mean is, do the doctors\you think theres much chance of you getting back to your old self, 100% like?

I wish you all the best mate, take them for as much as you can.

dangsi
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the doctors have said i wont get back to 100%

black outs will still happen wen they want to

headaches can be contorled by tablets to a certain degree

basicly if i take loads of tablets they will help cotrol but not fully control my problems


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6th Oct 09 at 13:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

People who say they couldn't live on 15k a year etc...

If they do give it to you as one large sum...

Say you took 22k * 70 years = 1.54 million...

if you can push them for say 25k * 70 = 1.75 million.

Then I'd take it, buy a house, then give a large proportion of it to investment companies, if you get say 4% interest (when the bank rates eventually recover you'll get this just having your money in the bank)...

Then you'll be getting 60k a year pre tax. on 1.5 million invested / in bank at 4% interest.

Rather than just '15k' / '22k' / '25k' a year.


[Edited on 06-10-2009 by Paul_J]
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6th Oct 09 at 14:01   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Whats the story on the licence?
nathy_87
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quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
the crash must have ruined your spelling too mate?


That's a bit harsh aint it Barndoor?

If this accident has effected his movements in left arm etc (only read part of the post) don't you think that it may have something to do with that?
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
1 million may sound like a lot, but once you have a house, that's half of that gone...



If you start living like the pools have come in then it would, 150k would get you a decent house in most places!!


Not round here it wouldn't Col. Nigh on double that for a shit, new build, 1 bedroom flat on a main road.
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Jim, this exact issue is being talked about in house day, the prices up north are just far more realistic and I think those above Luton sometimes forget that we have to pay for the privlage of living down south.
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So, so true Ollie. It's so unfair.

A large house around the corner of the top of my road was bought by property ''developers''.

They tarted it up and sold it minus a very large chunk of it's gardens. They built half a dozen or so small detached properties in the grounds and the starting price for the smallest (3 bedroom IIRC) of the houses was £635,000.00.

Just ludicrous.
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Dan, i'm so sorry to hear of your misfortune. I hope you recover as well as can be expected and I hope you can drive again.

Such a shame you have to sell the Jaguar.

If the payments are not in one or two lump sums and are likely to be weekly/monthly/annual payments, I would definitely make sure that they are index linked to the cost of living if possible, i.e., they increase at the rate of inflation at least.

Oh and deffo follow your solicitors advice if they say to decline an offer.
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To the OP, Thats such bad luck, fingers crossed you will get a good pay out and be back on your feet asap

To everyone else, You all saying you couldnt live on 15k a year after tax may not be looking at it in the right way. If thats post tax, thats just under 19k before tax.

Remove all costs for your car, insurance, running and commuting costs, money you pay to pension or for any benefits you receive in work for your year from the amount you recieve after tax.

Unless your on 28 - 30k before tax, it'll be about the same amount after those amounts are removed. (Or your in a lucky situation and have no commuting costs etc). Obviously this wont apply to some people, but probably to a fair few.
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
Whats the story on the licence?


still waitin to hear from the dvla should now by end of the week i hope
dangsi
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Originally posted by SVM 286
Dan, i'm so sorry to hear of your misfortune. I hope you recover as well as can be expected and I hope you can drive again.

Such a shame you have to sell the Jaguar.

If the payments are not in one or two lump sums and are likely to be weekly/monthly/annual payments, I would definitely make sure that they are index linked to the cost of living if possible, i.e., they increase at the rate of inflation at least.

Oh and deffo follow your solicitors advice if they say to decline an offer.


cheers pal im hopein not to sell the jag but have to wait and see what dvla say
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quote:
Originally posted by Neo
To the OP, Thats such bad luck, fingers crossed you will get a good pay out and be back on your feet asap

To everyone else, You all saying you couldnt live on 15k a year after tax may not be looking at it in the right way. If thats post tax, thats just under 19k before tax.

Remove all costs for your car, insurance, running and commuting costs, money you pay to pension or for any benefits you receive in work for your year from the amount you recieve after tax.

Unless your on 28 - 30k before tax, it'll be about the same amount after those amounts are removed. (Or your in a lucky situation and have no commuting costs etc). Obviously this wont apply to some people, but probably to a fair few.


Mike, I think it's the fact that... ok now that'd be fine for most... but say in 20 + years... in his 40s, does he still want to have only enough money to 'survive on'?

Most people earn crap money when they're young and slowly work up the pay scale as they get older, putting their money into houses / savings or whatever...

imo 15k a year for rest of your life even post tax, is not going to be a great standard of living, especially if you have to pay a mortgage / rent.
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cold world hope your back on track soon mate

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