grez12
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get ya apron on throw some dinna parties all cooked in ya nice new kitchen Enjoy it and fill the scoobys tank get on the B rds and enjoy much sooner have your scoob than an outdated bmw
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sand-eel
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Isn't the scoobie a 1992 design as well 
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Mike GSi
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My 3.0 M3 didnt have TC Neither did my mates 3.2 The 6 speed gearbox is known for being less reliable than the 5 speed, especially the SMG. When the Vanos "goes" on the 3.2 in most cases its just the solonoid. there are pros and cons to both! the 3.0 does have the same Vader leather in some cases, but arent heated or electronically adjustable! The climate control in the 3.2 is a very nice touch. also dont be put off with a throaty sounding engine, they have 6 seperate TB's Hence the 320BHP as standard from a 3.2 6 cyl car 
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sand-eel
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fuck, just did a research and you are right they don't have traction control  just the US spec ones do, strange how some of the 320i,323i and 328i have them.
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sand-eel
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I heard the 6 speed was less reliable too, but apparently can take the most torque of apparently 400lb/f odd.
Racing cars use the 5 speed because its lighter and 6th gear isn't used on the track too.
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Mike GSi
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Yeah the other models have the TC becuase they have active diffs, and the inside wheel spins up very easy! The M3 didnt need it as it had a LSD and didnt have the same problem! but when it did spin up you certainly knew about it 
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Andy Stocker
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quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
Oh dear this wasn't what i expected
I'd hardly call my Impreza MINT as such.It's done 86K but i suppose it has a lot going for it than most..colour..plate..styling etc.It is a near 10 year old car after all so it does have it's marks and small dings.
Andy what made you sell the M3 so quickly mate?? I'd be interested in anything you have to say especially from the perfomance side..bearing in mind i'd be going for a coupe.
It's as has been said you will like it for 5 mins then be bored by it. While it may have more power and pull strongly through the gears it never feels like it's trying to push you through the back of the seat like the Impreza. Plain and simple for me was it was just boring and lethargic to drive.
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allza
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No way mate, you would be mad imo. Scoob is so much better. But hten again im another scooby nut!
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Fad
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I'd go on Mtorque mate as there are a lot of Scooby to m3 owners on there and they seem quite positive about it.
I'd say drive a few as the general consensus is buy the best you can and it'll pay dividends. Also I would drive a few examples as people on M Torque have said they can vary depending on how well they have been looked after.
Avoid the 3.0 as its the poor mans choice
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Andy Stocker
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People recommended I went for the 3.0, due to the repair cost to the vanos on the 3.2 if it went. Even though there is a big gap between the power of the 3.0 (286bhp) and the 3.2 (321bhp) the performance figures are roughly the same.
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Fad
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A coupe Evo will be quick a convertible 3.0 however weighs more than a baby elephant.
JR's mate Al has an E36 Evo and in Dartford tunnel and on the m25 there was not much in it between it and Effey's CSL in a drag race.
[Edited on 15-09-2009 by Fad]
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SVM 286
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Have you seen how small and light a baby elephant is Fadburg?
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mk4_astra
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quote:
Originally posted by Fad
A coupe Evo will be quick a convertible 3.0 however weighs more than a baby elephant.
JR's mate Al has an E36 Evo and in Dartford tunnel and on the m25 there was not much in it between it and Effey's CSL in a drag race.
[Edited on 15-09-2009 by Fad]
impossible
according to corsasport the e36 m3 evo is alot slower than the e46, maybe the csl was in the drag wind from the impreza in front of it?
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CORSA NUT
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What's all this chat about E46 M3's???
I'd fuking love an E46 but it just aint gonna happen 
Still not 100% sure what to do as i need to get 4K for my Scooby to get a half decent 3.2 Evo.Might just sell up and save for a while but i don't think i could save as much as i'd need for somthing special
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CORSA NUT
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Thanks for all the help and advise BTW 
Especially Andy..that's not what i wanted to hear but kinda what i needed to hear if you get me
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mk4_astra
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dont wait its the prime time to buy.
chuck a few £££ at the m3 and it will transform how it handles and be more of an involving drive than the scoob
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CORSA NUT
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I must admit i did like the RWD of my old 325i It's more involving but different than 4WD..somtimes that's good though as the Scooby has so much grip it's not challenging most of the time.
Just been looking again and i'd rather save a bit more and go for one around the 5K/6K mark so i get a minter rather than a shed.
Wish i could get a loan and get an E46 M3 but i swore i'd never get in debt for a car ever again.
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sand-eel
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What model is your scoob? take it is not a normal turbo?
Didn't realise you can get turbos for £3000 odd.
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Gareth T
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not fancy a vectra vxr ???
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sand-eel
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Its hardly the performance drivers car of the year tbh.
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Jambo
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the problem with people jumping from a scoob to a BMW is the lack of refinement goes up as the car can be driven slowly and it will behave like an executive car with all the trimmings and be easy to own everyday and the work hack etc....
A scoob however is a more raw car, turbo engine so completely different power delivery and much more torque.
The bmw will feel sluggish and "slow" as such unless you rev the bollocks off it. You will be pleasently suprised when you do.
As for reliability theres alot of paranoya surrounding vanos issues etc. My Z3m had the same engine as the evo (s50) and suffered no issues whatsoever. As do a few fdriends who have had them in the past. Like anything, proper maintenance and an awareness of preventions and signs of it going and it will be fine. Plus remember while £1500 may sound like alot to fix it, its a BMW Mcar, so expect alot of bills to be expensive. They arent cheap to run.... If they break.
I wouldnt see the point of the non evo model unless a very cheap one came up.
They are imo an absoloute argain if looking for a car that is refined, well built and also has rwd with great feel/steering etc.
Id get one.
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CORSA NUT
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Jambo just sell me yours for 4K 
I not sure what to do now..i don't think i could honestly get a better car for 4K Even if i get a good example of an M3 Evo i doubt it would give me the same buzz as a scooby.
Fucks knows i'll probably have a New Focus RS this time next month
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sand-eel
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
What model is your scoob? take it is not a normal turbo?
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CORSA NUT
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Sorry dude Been a long day mate!
It's just an MY00 UK Turbo mate..it's in rare Sonic Blue as it's a euro import and they never came in that colour in UK spec..same as UK car otherwise and insurance is the same etc.
[Edited on 16-09-2009 by CORSA NUT]
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CORSA NUT
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And yeah you can get some UK Turbo's for 3K but they will usually be dogs..the best ones go very quickly as a lot of guys like original non modded examples..
Fuckers selling there's for buttons don't help neither
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