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l15ter
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Originally posted by Twiggy
R32 END OF!




Do you base this simply on looks?

Because if you drove one back to back I know which one most of you would buy. Remove the badges and walla, the Vaux wins.

[Edited on 20-12-2008 by Ojc]


na if i was going for looks i would go for the mk4 r32
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then you would end up with a proper cack car

the mk5 r32 really isnt all that.. i have driven many...
Ben G
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mk5 golf r32 is the same speed as my focus st in the real world

had a play with one tonight, rolling start 20mph, up to 120mph and there was nothing really in it.

but my god, the noise it made was car heaven i'd get the car along because of it.
Phil W
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dh_v9nzffVM

MK4 but mmmmmm
SteveW
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Not looked at the Edition30 before... Thats a 2.0l Turbo yeah ?

i just fancied a 4WD option.. I know the S3 does the same but a new shape S3 is quite a bit more than the Golf.

I can understand that the VXR is probably more of a drivers car. but when am i really going to be pushing the car to the limits.
I drive from Uxbridge to Heathrow every day.. The M25 doesnt really have a handling circuit.. not that i know of anyway

Im just looking for a car thats quick, comfy and has some tuning possibilities. I know you can up the boost of the VXR and swap in for bigger turbo etc etc.. but does the chassis really lend itself for more power ?!?
Whereas the R32 with its 4WD (assuming its something like 70/30% front to back) with a supercharger will be more capable.
Plus as people have said. the V6 soundtrack is awesome

Just looking for peoples honest opinions.

dont want Vaux or VW bias.. just what you would do with your money



Cheers peeps

Fad
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Steve drive them both and buy the one you like, as its very much down to preference.

General press rate the R32 and they did warm up to the VXR but its one of those things which do you see yourself living with?

Charging an R32 will be mega bucks compared to the plug and play tuning of the VXR though
SteveW
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oh yeah i know.. its around £7.5k
but its not something i would do straight away.
Just like the thought of a 3.2V6 SuperCharged.. kinda rolls off the tongue nicely
Fad
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Well I know someone with a supercharged Mk4 R32 and it dont hang around!

Tbh I've never understood the shit people spout about the mk4 R32 being slow as they clearly are not! Dont feel it when inside but when you look down at the speedo you do realise its bloody quick. I was actually anti R32 as I just went with the general consiensus that it was lardy and heavy. Now I've actually been in a few really changed my opinion of them.

Both cars are very good either way so its just a matter of noise vs tunability?
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I'd go for the golf, then again I wouldn't be racing around the streets like a nob jockey so wouldn't really care if it wasn't quite as fast as the other etc etc.
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well bonus is that i have a VW and Vauxhall garage just down the road from my work. so in the new year im booking test drives for both.

might even try and book one for a VXR8 too but thats a whole different kettle of fish
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turbo charging an r32 seems a little more cost effective..

torque split btw, on haldex systems is 90/10 front/rear they arent the quickest to react either..

saying that there is available a haldex controller that will allow you to control the split upto 50/50 iirc
SteveW
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matt.. 90/10 thats rubbish. shouldnt really call it 4WD should they

If you can get something that changes it to a "true" 4WD then that would be mucho better.

anyway mister.. more burning issues.. NYE !! you coming over ?

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i belive we are...

btw.. please dont buy from citygate... dodgy bastards... still not sorted my issues with them, and now they have neglected to pay me for last month tossers
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shittygate are proper assholes then
you got a new job on the horizon yet ?
Tommy L
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Without driving either of them, i dont know why, but i would go for the R32. The sound it makes is awesome and i really like the look of them.

I wouldn't say no to an Astra VXR but if i was spending my own money it would be on a R32 but thats not taking into account the drive and the fun factor. I could drive both and find the astra is the car i would want. Test driving them is the key.
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Originally posted by SteveW
shittygate are proper assholes then
you got a new job on the horizon yet ?


yep.. morons that have no clue about anything they are doing..

no new jobs yet, applying for more today.. including games testing
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r6v0j7jdXvo&feature=related

I'd say a Nurburg sounds pretty fucking fantastic as well. Had a go with one yesterday, the noise it made was utter sex.
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R32. I'd rather have a GTI though.
Fro
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Ed30 for me if its a MKV would only get r32 in the MkIV.

Drive them and see which you prefer
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OK been mooching about online.. just for styling and whatnot.

MK5 Golf contenders





The best looking VXR i have seen...




For me the styling on the Golf is amazing.
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Steve get yourself one of these - Edition 30

With Leather though as those seats are a bit sick!!
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it should be added that the edition 30 engine is a detuned S3 lump.. a simple remap can apparently see 300bhp..
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Yeah theres a guy on my local forum got a remap & few breathing mods on his - 320bhp

[Edited on 21-12-2008 by Colin]
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it should be added that the edition 30 engine is a detuned S3 lump.. a simple remap can apparently see 300bhp..


really ?
thats pretty cool... AMD all the way then lol

What is the actual differences between a normal GTi and Edition30 ?
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yep

Edition 30 has Ko4 turbo thus will map to 305 BHP

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