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Ojc
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27th Nov 08 at 17:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I don't know, ask Ford.
Rob B
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Originally posted by Ojc
I don't know, ask Ford.


I'm asking you after the comment of me being a "tit". Tit.
jr
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Originally posted by Rob B
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by Rob B
i would say the R26-R would be decent competition. plus i doubt it will be 300 BHp or whatever thorney are over quoting


Are you a complete tit? Why not?


So you don't think 300 bhp in a front wheel drive isn't excessive ?


depends, if the chassis can handle it, why not ?
Rob B
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Rob B
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by Rob B
i would say the R26-R would be decent competition. plus i doubt it will be 300 BHp or whatever thorney are over quoting


Are you a complete tit? Why not?


So you don't think 300 bhp in a front wheel drive isn't excessive ?


depends, if the chassis can handle it, why not ?


Correct me if i'm wrong, but theres plenty of reviews about it not doing to well compared to other hot hatches with the current power on the handling side of things.
Fro
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27th Nov 08 at 17:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
If we're talking about the RS they are coutneracting bad things like torque steer etc with a new hub/suspension design can't remember what its called though.

Edit: Revo knuckle.

[Edited on 27-11-2008 by fro-dizzle]
Rob B
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It's the one that Renault have use for ages on the megane but Ford are just making a big deal about it, think someone's all ready said that few pages back though

[Edited on 27-11-2008 by Rob B]
jr
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Originally posted by Rob B
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Rob B
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by Rob B
i would say the R26-R would be decent competition. plus i doubt it will be 300 BHp or whatever thorney are over quoting


Are you a complete tit? Why not?


So you don't think 300 bhp in a front wheel drive isn't excessive ?


depends, if the chassis can handle it, why not ?


Correct me if i'm wrong, but theres plenty of reviews about it not doing to well compared to other hot hatches with the current power on the handling side of things.


What car, if its the vxr that was discussed ?, and ive driven the golf and thats fine
Colin
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27th Nov 08 at 17:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Define 'better'?

Faster?
build?
looks?
Handling?

Both cars will have its merits in different areas. I prefer golfs in general & the VXR's never been one of my favourite cars, never drove one, just not keen on the looks!
Ben J
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27th Nov 08 at 18:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Define 'better'?

Faster?
build?
looks?
Handling?

Both cars will have its merits in different areas. I prefer golfs in general & the VXR's never been one of my favourite cars, never drove one, just not keen on the looks!


WHAT! Colin, considering you have a hot fiancee, your taste in cars is poor....

[Edited on 27-11-2008 by Ben J]
Joe
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VXR's look a bit tacky to me.
mwg
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27th Nov 08 at 18:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'd have the Golf personally. Like the look of it
Ben J
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Originally posted by Joe
VXR's look a bit tacky to me.


To be fair, I think theres nothing tackier than chrome mirrors but each to their own mate.
Joe
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Aluminium
Ben J
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Originally posted by Joe
Aluminium


Either way they look tacky. IMO though.
Daimo B
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27th Nov 08 at 18:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
300BHP through the front wheels...

It'll need a diff = check.
Big wide wheels to get the power down = check
Good chassis = Check (pending )

There was a time when people said 200bhp was far to much for a FWD....

Then that figure raised to 250bhp a few years back....

Now most hot hatches are 220+bhp and work fine. Technology develops, so does engines, chassis, gearboxes, suspension so its always going to go up.

I think the issue before with FWD power is also down to the engine and its delivery of the power, engines had to be really tuned to get 200+bhp, where-as now we have them in normal roadcars, with lots more potential.

Old BTCC engines ran over 300bhp, new ones are airflow restricted and still reliably make 280bhp odd. So really, anythings possible, with the right things combined.

Few more years, we'll see 300+bhp FWD variations
Joe
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Originally posted by Ben J
quote:
Originally posted by Joe
Aluminium


Either way they look tacky. IMO though.


Fair enough, I like them just because they set it apart, with a couple of other touches from an A3.
Daimo B
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27th Nov 08 at 18:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Anyone notice no-ones really mentioned the Audi S3 here
deano87
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Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
mwg
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If I had 26k to spend on a hot hatch thats what I would be buying! but i dont

[Edited on 27-11-2008 by Matty G]
Joe
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Originally posted by VXR
Anyone notice no-ones really mentioned the Audi S3 here


Its not really a hot hatch though is it? Plus its a great deal more expensive than a VXR/Golf/Other things mentioned.
deano87
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The problem with the S3, is it's a Golf, in a fancy frock, with a higher price tag, and not any better.

Looks wise though
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Fro
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Originally posted by deano87
The problem with the S3, is it's a Golf, in a fancy frock, with a higher price tag, and not any better.

Looks wise though


Joe's s3 is better than the mark 4 GTI's, 4wd alot more bhp etc etc
deano87
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quote:
Originally posted by Matty G

I just go on what god jr says
jr
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27th Nov 08 at 21:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
it is exactley what i would say, but ive only based my opinions on cars ive driven, and ive driven a few of them

but then again alot of people would do what im doing, opinions are wonderfull, with facts to back them up

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