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daymoon
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quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
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Originally posted by daymoon
it seems like every winter is getting colder and colder now, and last winter there was quite a lot of icy roads..

better be safe than sorry...


Yeah a 1.3 Accent must be lethal to keep under control in icy conditions


car has nothing to do with grip.

driving on ice/snow with summer tyres u wont be able to brake... with winter tyres u will have atleast some stopping power..

it shows that people on here actually never driven on snow or ice and dont know how different car reacts to the movement of steering wheel when with summer tyres and not winter tyres.
Graham88
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11th Nov 08 at 18:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I was joking.

I have ridden on snow on a 50cc ped, now THAT was interesting.
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Agree with Daymoon, seems people don't know what they're talking about.

'Drive acordingly'?

If I was on here saying I would drive home after 5 pints at the pub no problem, cause I would just drive acordingly, I wonder how people would react.

I know the obvious answer will be a lot more rubbish, but the fact is, that you can have as great F1 tyres or as big 4-pot brakes as you wish but as soon as the cold strikes (as in now) they will both do jack-shit for your ability to stop if someone drives out in front of you (as a few of you already said, everyone ELSE drives like a plank).


Colin
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Ive drove on ice/snow many a time for the 9years ive been driveing & never had an accident. Never had 'winter tyres' either but then I just adapt my driving to suit the conditions when required!!
Graham88
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quote:
Originally posted by Balling
Agree with Daymoon, seems people don't know what they're talking about.

'Drive acordingly'?

If I was on here saying I would drive home after 5 pints at the pub no problem, cause I would just drive acordingly, I wonder how people would react.

I know the obvious answer will be a lot more rubbish, but the fact is, that you can have as great F1 tyres or as big 4-pot brakes as you wish but as soon as the cold strikes (as in now) they will both do jack-shit for your ability to stop if someone drives out in front of you (as a few of you already said, everyone ELSE drives like a plank).


No, you're just being silly now aren't you. You just apply common sense, drinking and driving isn't common sense.

And if somebody pulls out on you, what does the conditions have to do with it, if it happens you will crash anyway.
Fro
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Originally posted by Colin
Ive drove on ice/snow many a time for the 9years ive been driveing & never had an accident. Never had 'winter tyres' either but then I just adapt my driving to suit the conditions when required!!


Same (although you'ce been driving 6 more years :lol
Adam_B
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i spent most of last winter on R888s
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quote:
Originally posted by daymoon
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Originally posted by Graham88
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Originally posted by daymoon
it seems like every winter is getting colder and colder now, and last winter there was quite a lot of icy roads..

better be safe than sorry...


Yeah a 1.3 Accent must be lethal to keep under control in icy conditions


car has nothing to do with grip.

driving on ice/snow with summer tyres u wont be able to brake... with winter tyres u will have atleast some stopping power..

it shows that people on here actually never driven on snow or ice and dont know how different car reacts to the movement of steering wheel when with summer tyres and not winter tyres.
I've done a shed load of driving on snow and ice. You need chains if you're going to get anywhere, winter tyres do fuck all after about 2cm of snow as it just compacts under the weight of the car and turns to ice.
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11th Nov 08 at 19:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

never had a problem with it. a decent set of tires wll grip well even when its cold and pissing it down. no point in having different tires in england anyway it ends up sunny it winter and rainy all summer. good luck trying to predict when to change over
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It doesnt really get cold enough for long enough to warrent winter tyres....
daymoon
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when u drive on snow or ice and try to brake wheels will just lock up, and it doesnt really matter how hard u brake...

snow tyres will give some grip when wheels lock up..

IMO multi seasonal tyres are the way to go..
CCA
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Ive been driving 5 years and never swapped my wheels over for the changing seasons. The weather in the UK is simply too unpredictable to be able to anticipate when its going to be the right time to change them.

If your planning to brake hard when its icy then more fool you!
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11th Nov 08 at 21:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Because it is safer to go sideways down the road, get a better view of the thing you are going to hit






Also the weather is generally the same all year round. And am i right in thinking that we are the only country that puts salt grit on the roads in winter?
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When they grit the roads it usually makes it worse during the day - very greasy until the next heavy rain.

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we dont get summer here, its just constant wind cold and rain
with the occasional bit of snow/ice
swill_omnibus
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Why have "winter Tyres"??

Do what the Russians do and put chain tyres on MUCH better braking and handling personally

But i think the reason the UK doesn't is maybe because we don't really get bad winter weather (just cold rain instead of humid) it's not a necessary and a majority of the time if it were to become icy the gritters are out anyway.

chrex
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I do, i have a set of winter wheels (with toyo proxes 4's) and a set of summer wheels (yoko Parada's).
daymoon
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quote:
Originally posted by swill_omnibus
Why have "winter Tyres"??

Do what the Russians do and put chain tyres on MUCH better braking and handling personally





no they dont chains are used for mountains and similar..

what people in eastern europe do is this :



u can see metal bits arount the edge of the tyre.. its like spikes...
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Winter tyres will just give idiotic company-car-salesman-Passat-family-saloon drivers an excuse to drive even worse in heavy rain and cold mornings.
Colin
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Originally posted by deano87
Winter tyres will just give poor mpg's.


deano87
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Colin
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LOL I thought it was funny
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thank fuck we dont use spikes in the UK. See the state of the roads in Norway!!! Ruts all over them.
daymoon
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Originally posted by AK
thank fuck we dont use spikes in the UK. See the state of the roads in Norway!!! Ruts all over them.


true..i love UK roads.. Lithuania now banned spiked tyres as they are not getting much snow, but winter tyres in all europe continent are a must..

by law u must put them on the car from mid november.. u r alowed to summer tyres back on begining of march.. ofcourse all countries have different dates for that.
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the only reason that i got the micra was to use in winter was due to how fucking cold the vx got.

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