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Eck
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30th Oct 08 at 14:32   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cunningham
thats pish is it no?


For an N/A to have evenish power/torque is pretty damn good!
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thats pish is it no?


With the loooooong ass F25 yes,with an F20 and flat flywheel,u can make the most of it.
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thats pish is it no?


With the loooooong ass F25 yes,with an F20 and flat flywheel,u can make the most of it.


Is that the same gearbox that's in the Veccy 2.5 SRi? That's one thing that let my dad's one down. 110 in 3rd Come on!
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Yeah same one.The ratios are longer than a week in jail ffs lol.
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quote:
Originally posted by Eck
My 120bhp car would give your torqueless VTi a run for it's money


if your car is standard, you have the same torque that lee does. however your car does weight a good bit less than his, i wouldn't be surprised if did you gave him a run for his money.

[Edited on 30-10-2008 by andy1868]
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My 120bhp car would give your torqueless VTi a run for it's money
i can back up this claim

[Edited on 30-10-2008 by GSi_16v]


What time did you two get home mate?
about 11.45ish almost 11 hours on the road
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quote:
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My 120bhp car would give your torqueless VTi a run for it's money


if your car is standard, you have the same torque that lee does. however your car does weight a good bit less than his, i wouldn't be surprised if did you gave him a run for his money.

[Edited on 30-10-2008 by andy1868]


My car isn't standard, it isn't the standard engine, or standard car I reckon I'd beat a VTi tbh.
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you still have the VTS don't you? i can't keep up.

also, i reckon i'd beat a mclaren F1, doesn't mean its going to happen
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you still have the VTS don't you? i can't keep up.

also, i reckon i'd beat a mclaren F1, doesn't mean its going to happen


Nah, it was a VTR and I have a stripped XSi with GTi engine... So yes, that's a MUCH bigger probabilty to beat a VTi than you have against an F1
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you swapped him then!
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you know i'm jesting, frankly i don't care which would win, its all speculation
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Ive kept up with a CTR from 40 - 100 FACT
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well done
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you know i'm jesting, frankly i don't care which would win, its all speculation


I know mate

And yeah Matt, got swapped last night! It's a rattly but fun little sod
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did he leave the door cards in

[Edited on 30-10-2008 by mattk]
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you know i'm jesting, frankly i don't care which would win, its all speculation


I know mate

And yeah Matt, got swapped last night! It's a rattly but fun little sod
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did he leave the door cards in

[Edited on 30-10-2008 by mattk]
sam is quite the artist, it would be a crime to change them
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My girlfriend was pissing herself laughing at the Happy Hamburger and the French Fries and Muffin fellow But she hates the car in general
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tell her to stfu, its fun
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Originally posted by GSi_16v
tell her to stfu and post naked pics


[Edited on 30-10-2008 by andy1868]
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Torque is the amount of force pushing down the pistons multiplied by the throw of the crank. Bhp is an equation of this taking time into effect or rpm. Also many people are forgetting the weight of the vehicle. Although it wont effect torque of bhp it will accelerate quicker. Also gearing will also affect acceleration so its not really just a simple torque vs bhp argument.
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i've never understood, why people say the vtec has no torque...

eg.. the 1.6 make MORE torque than a 1.6 corsa engine?
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i think its because the power to torque ratio is so different, but as you say pound for pound some of the VTEC engines are creating more torque than for example their vauxhall equivalents.

ie the S2000 is a 2 litre and produces 208lbs/ft of torque against for an example a C20XE at 160ish? (i know i'm guessing, so feel free to correct me)

however, with the 1.6 or 1.8 engines, theres not that much difference torque wise


[Edited on 30-10-2008 by andy1868]
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s2000 makes no wear near 208lbs ft
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i'm going off parkers, i know its probably wrong

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