Ojc
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Originally posted by Scatt
Hmmm. I don't know what to think here.
As a father, obviously you do what you can to protect your little ones.
But, Punching a lad in front of your kid? I'm not sure about that.
Very good point.
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J da Silva
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As a parent, you do whatever it takes to ensure their safety (well good parents do anyway), so when you see someone intentionally try to hurt your child, it is a knee jerk reaction, you just do it, nature made us that way. However I've intentionally left a situation before and gone back to it at a later date when my little girl wasn't there, that sort of revenge is controlled and thought out which to be honest is the worst of the two.
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nova_gteuk
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If he cared about his safety,why didnt he check his son was ok before assaulting someone like that?or even checking his son was ok after he had hit the guy?
And the guy isnt a spastic he has down syndrome,theres a big diffrence 
Ive said many times on here i have a cousin with down syndrome and whethere or not that guy kicked the kid,you DONT hit somone like that,its sick!
Thats america for you.
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J da Silva
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You could claim adults shouldn't assault kids, that's sick too. You could say both parties were wrong, which is why this happened in the first instance.
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Mobby
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
If he cared about his safety,why didnt he check his son was ok before assaulting someone like that?or even checking his son was ok after he had hit the guy?
And the guy isnt a spastic he has down syndrome,theres a big diffrence
Ive said many times on here i have a cousin with down syndrome and whethere or not that guy kicked the kid,you DONT hit somone like that,its sick!
Thats america for you.
i have to agree. i couldnt hit him like that
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nova_gteuk
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Hes an adult with mental health issues, meaning he wouldnt know the diffrence from right or wrong.
Checking my child was ok would be my first port of call,then have a word.
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Ojc
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Sorry I don't buy that argument that because the lad has downs that immediately makes him immune from the consequences of his actions.
If he goes around kicking toddlers what do you expect? If he is a risk to children he shouldn't be out in the community.
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
If he cared about his safety,why didnt he check his son was ok before assaulting someone like that?or even checking his son was ok after he had hit the guy?
And the guy isnt a spastic he has down syndrome,theres a big diffrence
Ive said many times on here i have a cousin with down syndrome and whethere or not that guy kicked the kid,you DONT hit somone like that,its sick!
Thats america for you.
Well noted. Glad to see someone see's the bigger picture.
Seems people cannot define between bullying, prejudice, and racism either, so I wouldn't bother getting to worked up by those who clearly have no idea or experience with people with a disability such as this and put comments to show this.
Most "decent" parents would instantly check their child. Once they see they were ok, then i'd expect some serious words, maybe a pinning to a wall etc..... But to hit out without even looking to see if your childs ok????
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Mobby
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Originally posted by Ojc
Sorry I don't buy that argument that because the lad has downs that immediately makes him immune from the consequences of his actions.
If he goes around kicking toddlers what do you expect? If he is a risk to children he shouldn't be out in the community.
a risk to children walking down the essex high street is a risk to children.
as you can see in the video the kid wasnt even hurt. looked very shocked and baffled! what about the girl with turrets who says ni***r when black people are around, does she deserve a smack every time even though she cant help it?
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Jamie
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Originally posted by VXR
That guys black, he's a nigga.
That guys has a handicap, he's mental.
Both racist comment.
I aint getting involved, had my say. You lot bicker away all you want
Are you serious?
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Ojc
Sorry I don't buy that argument that because the lad has downs that immediately makes him immune from the consequences of his actions.
If he goes around kicking toddlers what do you expect? If he is a risk to children he shouldn't be out in the community.
Doesn't mean he is immune nope. But what did the little lad shout at the lad who kicked him? Do you have any idea, or are you just writing it from what you've seen only????
My mothers been bitten, headbutted, punched, kicked by her clients (yes, thats the PC way of saying it before the kids get excited).
Does this mean these people shouldnt' ever be allowed outside?
Fuck me, you can be totally sound minded, kill someone, and be out in a few years... But thats ok yeah????
Bigger picture oli, bigger picture.........
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Originally posted by VXR
Fuck me, you can be totally sound minded, kill someone, and be out in a few years... But thats ok yeah????
When the fuck did anyone say that was ok 
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Ojc
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Hes an adult with mental health issues, meaning he wouldnt know the diffrence from right or wrong.
Checking my child was ok would be my first port of call,then have a word.
Well if he doesn't know right from wrong what is preventing him from commiting murder? Oh look there is a knife I'll take that out and stab people with it.
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Mobby
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tbh i feel sorry for the woman also. if its her son and she couldnt do anything about it cos daddy wanted to be a hardman
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Daimo B
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Its ok to kill someone, go to prison, come back out a free man.
But if you have a mental handicap, you should be kept away from all the public.
Thats how i read the comment.
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Hes an adult with mental health issues, meaning he wouldnt know the diffrence from right or wrong.
Checking my child was ok would be my first port of call,then have a word.
Well if he doesn't know right from wrong what is preventing him from commiting murder? Oh look there is a knife I'll take that out and stab people with it.
dont take this the wrong way but you could seriously hurt someone just while driving!!!
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Mobby
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Originally posted by VXR
Its ok to kill someone, go to prison, come back out a free man.
But if you have a mental handicap, you should be kept away from all the public.
Thats how i read the comment.
x2
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Ojc
Well if he doesn't know right from wrong what is preventing him from commiting murder? Oh look there is a knife I'll take that out and stab people with it.
Does that stop people who DO know the difference????
No....
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Ojc
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This is a good discussion, but because of the nature of the thread I won't be contributing any further.
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nova_gteuk
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All i know is whether or not the down syndrome lad hit the kid or not in this country that guy would of got a beating for what he did.
Ive taken my cousin out drinking and i find even strangers are overprotective over him.
Where as america anything goes.
And locking people up with mental health issues is wrong and sick.
And any decent parent would check their child was ok first before anything
and knocking somone out infront of their child isnt decent at all?
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Brett
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OMFG I suppose if someone with a mental disorder killed your folks it'd be fine because of his disability. No punishment deserved. Whatever 
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Originally posted by VXR
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Sorry I don't buy that argument that because the lad has downs that immediately makes him immune from the consequences of his actions.
If he goes around kicking toddlers what do you expect? If he is a risk to children he shouldn't be out in the community.
Doesn't mean he is immune nope. But what did the little lad shout at the lad who kicked him? Do you have any idea, or are you just writing it from what you've seen only????
Your are writing from what you have seen only,
You are assuming the toddler said something
Tbh assumption is the mother of all fuck ups,
I get your argument, I have a mate who works with special needs kids, But the spitters and biters dont get taken to Macdonalds and allowed to wander around unsupervised kicking toddlers,
It sounds to me as if you are justifying the actions of the Downs kid by saying the toddler must of said something, But you can ONLY go by what you have seen, stop making things up in your head to justify it,
Kid kicked toddler, kid got punched by toddlers father,
Father could of said, Oh shit I'm so sorry, I didn;t realise, but your not assuming that are you?
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Originally posted by Ojc
TBH if someone went to kick my son like that regardless of their mental or physical state I'd probably react the same way.
Ditto.
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gianluigi
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by Marc
Just because hes down syndrome doesn't mean he doesn't know the differance between right and wrong!
Yes.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Get your mother.
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Jambo
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Sorry I don't buy that argument that because the lad has downs that immediately makes him immune from the consequences of his actions.
If he goes around kicking toddlers what do you expect? If he is a risk to children he shouldn't be out in the community.
Exactly.
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