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You did used to be able to time travel with Concorde. You could leave London and arrive in New York before you took off 
You're moving into different time zones. Its not really time travel 
Its not like you could then phone yourself in London and speak to yourself because you hadn't left yet.
[Edited on 27-05-2008 by BluKoo]
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ouch headache 
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When I first posted this, I didnt expect such scientific and mature answers.
Im proud of you all 
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Originally posted by RyanSxi
When I first posted this, I didnt expect such scientific and mature answers.
Im proud of you all
I'm proud of myself to be honest. I've managed to teach myself a lot in this thread.
I'm glad i'm not drunk or on any narcotics 
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Originally posted by BluKoo
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Originally posted by deano87
You did used to be able to time travel with Concorde. You could leave London and arrive in New York before you took off
You're moving into different time zones. Its not really time travel
Its not like you could then phone yourself in London and speak to yourself because you hadn't left yet.
[Edited on 27-05-2008 by BluKoo]
But isn't that essentially time travel, travelling to a different time zone.
And you wouldn't be able to talk to yourself anyway, because you're the one that has travelled, there is only 1 of you.
I feel the definition Time Travel is somewhat flawed, however, Goodnight Sweetheart proved it's possible
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John
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Going to a different timezone is not time travel
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BluKoo
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I guess, in theory, the only way time travel would be possible was if you could stop space from expanding and then force it into reverse. But that would be 100% impossible because when space stopped expanding, time would also stop making it impossible to do anything. Including re-starting the expansion of space, so that would be the end of the world and the universe as we know it.
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John
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I think you've read something and misunderstood it BluKoo, time wouldn't stop if space stopped expanding, they change their mind about whether it's expanding, collapsing or staying still regularly, time has not yet stopped or went backwards afaik.
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Originally posted by John
Going to a different timezone is not time travel
You're travelling, in time
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BluKoo
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I think you've read something and misunderstood it BluKoo, time wouldn't stop if space stopped expanding
Its not like i'm trying to say space could actually stop expanding and time would stop. I'm speaking theoretically.
Its like i said earlier: Imagine life as one huge animation flip book, and each page as time. It takes a new page for a new animation or movement, but if you ran out of pages, you couldn't animate or move anymore.
I've not actually read anything about this sort of stuff. I'm just making it up as i go along, but it makes perfect sense in my head. Its like time and space is the 4th dimension.
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John
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The fact you've made it up in your head is where you are going wrong then
Deano, all you are doing is flying to some where that puts the clocks forward a few hours to make up for the fact that they have daylight for a different portion of the day than somewhere else in the world.
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Originally posted by John
The fact you've made it up in your head is where you are going wrong then
ahem...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension
[Edited on 27-05-2008 by BluKoo]
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John
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There are potential infinite dimensions, I don't see how that backs up your theory?
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deano87
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Oh, Wikipedia, that reliable internet source 
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John
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I don't think he's read that link before posting, doesn't say anything about time apart from the fact it is sometimes refered to as the 4th dimension.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2sp-clMk8s&feature=related
There you go, just climb inside your kitchen cupboard 
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BluKoo
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Infinite dimension ie. time and space (the 4th dimension)
You need time/space to move something, in the same way you need the other 3 dimensions (x,y,z). If there was no time or space, you would be unable to move something.
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The room I am sitting in atm has a height, length and breadth, they are constant from what I can tell, I also seem to still be alive and time is passing as normal.
What you have made up makes no sense.
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Blukoo
You're really talking absolute garbage
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Originally posted by John
The room I am sitting in atm has a height, length and breadth, they are constant from what I can tell, I also seem to still be alive and time is passing as normal.
What you have made up makes no sense.
I never said anything about x,y and z not being constant 
Obviously you are still alive, because time is passing as normal (which it is likely to do).
You're not understanding what i'm saying.
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John
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I am understanding, it just doesn't make sense, hence the only place you can find out about it being your head.
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It makes perfect sense to me.
I'm obviously just finding it had to put it in a way that you will properly undestand.
I'm starting to fry my own head thinking of different ways of putting it.
The simplest way i can think of putting it is, "It takes time to do something, so you couldn't do something if there was no time"
[Edited on 27-05-2008 by BluKoo]
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We understand you Blukoo, but we actually know a bit about actual theories / actual science. You on the other hand are just plucking stuff out of the air like a school child would do.
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I know whats running through my mind, and the more i read about it, the more i know i'm along the right tracks.
None of you have actually said what you think is wrong about my theory, or my way of thinking, you have just said i'm wrong, and said i was speaking garbage.
Maybe if you elaborate a little, you will help me fiqure out where you think i'm going wrong...
[Edited on 27-05-2008 by BluKoo]
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John
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You are saying time would stop if the universe stopped expanding.
Depending where you read the universe has done all 3 things, expand, collapse and stop, time hasn't stopped.
Until recently they thought it was collapsing, does that mean by your theory time would go backwards?
That's how it's wrong.
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