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RyanSxi
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No, just don't say God isn't real.

He can do WTF he wants with his kids, but he could have told his son not to mention it in front of other kids, instead of ruining if for loads of them.


He may well of told him not to say anything, but he is 4. Not like he is really going to listen and not say anything is it.


if he feels he's old enough to know these things surely he's old enough to STFU about them?
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i told him to explain that other people believe different things and he shouldnt say it infront of other children as they believe in him. I didnt once say that i wanted him to tell him that he's real. Just dont want it ruined for all the others


I agree with that, and agree with having a word with the guy too. Just dont see the big problem people seem to have with him telling his son that Santa isnt real - its his choice and he shouldnt be limited in his choices because other parents want to lie to their kids.
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No, just don't say God isn't real.

He can do WTF he wants with his kids, but he could have told his son not to mention it in front of other kids, instead of ruining if for loads of them.


He may well of told him not to say anything, but he is 4. Not like he is really going to listen and not say anything is it.


if he feels he's old enough to know these things surely he's old enough to STFU about them?


have you been around a 4yr old ever?
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but oh know the dad that laughs about the whole issue shoots his sons dreams down in a ball of flames saying theres no such thing as father christmas its all fake, and im the one who buys the presents


yes because lieing to your kids for years is fantastic parenting

i agree in part. Just dont see why the school has an issue with it.


It's hardly a lie of epic proportions is it!! It's a bit of fun rather than well your sisters actually your mum or something.
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No, just don't say God isn't real.

He can do WTF he wants with his kids, but he could have told his son not to mention it in front of other kids, instead of ruining if for loads of them.


He may well of told him not to say anything, but he is 4. Not like he is really going to listen and not say anything is it.


if he feels he's old enough to know these things surely he's old enough to STFU about them?


have you been around a 4yr old ever?


ive never known a 4yr old been told that father christmas isn't real

[Edited on 05-12-2007 by RyanSxi]
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maybe he will think twice about runing it for all the others when he has to stay at home that day while all the other kids get presents from father christmas


his Dad will probably treat him better than a fat man in a white beard giving them a shitty little present tbh.
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I have.

I know if I told any of my nieces or nephews to keep something quiet when they were 4, they would have.

The eldest is 8, she still believes in Santa, is this bad parenting? No.
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ive never known a 4yr old been told that father christmas isn't real



that wasnt the point, you said that if he was old enough to know then he was old enough to STFU about it - which isnt the case with 4yr olds as they dont shut up about anything
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no its not, neither is telling them the truth
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The eldest is 8, she still believes in Santa, is this bad parenting? No.


No, and neither is telling them at whatever age you want to.
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cosmo stfu theyre good presents
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No, I agree, but making them understand that respecting other people's beliefs is important.
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he can tell his son what he likes but there is no need for the other kids to havee it spoilt for them
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cosmo stfu theyre good presents


let me guess...some sort of doll thing for the girls, and a toy car or similar for the guys?
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No, I agree, but making them understand that respecting other people's beliefs is important.


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cosmo stfu theyre good presents


let me guess...some sort of doll thing for the girls, and a toy car or similar for the guys?


no
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cosmo stfu theyre good presents


let me guess...some sort of doll thing for the girls, and a toy car or similar for the guys?


no


can I come then?!
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he can tell his son what he likes but there is no need for the other kids to havee it spoilt for them

exactly, i think you went about dealing with the the wrong way though, you shouldnt have tried to force the fact he does exist, infront of all the adults and other children, that would just make him feel belittled.

you should have asked him to keep quiet then had a word after with his dad and him
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well i think we should agree to disagree.

personally christmas as a child was brilliant for me. magical etc.

seems some of you didnt have this, unlucky
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No, I agree, but making them understand that respecting other people's beliefs is important.


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Yeah that's the best time to teach them! If you let them run around being little fuckers at that age then you're never going to recover it.
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No, I agree, but making them understand that respecting other people's beliefs is important.


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Yep, as early as possible, then you don't end up with a family of happy slappers.
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No, I agree, but making them understand that respecting other people's beliefs is important.


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Yeah that's the best time to teach them! If you let them run around being little fuckers at that age then you're never going to recover it.


No, I understand its the best time, but trying to inform a 4yr old of your own beliefs, let alone those of others and respecting them, isnt exactly something understood by all.
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when your 4yrs old father christmas should exist = fact!

when you get older you can understand it was all a con and deal with it better

[Edited on 05-12-2007 by RS6]
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he can tell his son what he likes but there is no need for the other kids to havee it spoilt for them

exactly, i think you went about dealing with the the wrong way though, you shouldnt have tried to force the fact he does exist, infront of all the adults and other children, that would just make him feel belittled.

you should have asked him to keep quiet then had a word after with his dad and him


maybe i should have gone about it differently but what about the kids that heard him say that? their faces dropped and they all looked gutted.
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when your 4yrs old old father christmas should exist = fact!



in your opinion.

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