Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by deano87
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Originally posted by SetH
Outstanding, /me applauds 
Aye. Ian speaks the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
ass kissing or not, thats not true at all.
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nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by Ian
Quite by accident, I'm not a drug-taking smoker drunkard.
i was always allowed to drink the odd beer from when i was about 13-14. oddly, i dont drink any alcohol and havent done since i was about 22-23.
stop kids doing things and they do it. allow them, the thrill goes and they have no interest
Thats so true im 24 now and i havent had a drink in over a year. 
yet when i was underage all i would do is drink 
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deano87
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Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by deano87
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Originally posted by SetH
Outstanding, /me applauds
Aye. Ian speaks the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
ass kissing or not, thats not true at all.
imho
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Nic Barnes
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i fail to understand peoples needs for ass kissing. ian doesnt speak the truth, he just says it the way he sees it, like everyone else. it doesnt make it the truth at all.
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ssj_kakarot
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i kind of agree, no need to compleatly keep your kids way from alchol, ect. As when they do come of age they will go overboard anyway.
I was allowed the odd drink when i was little, didnt do me any harm and i hardly ever toutch the stuff now.
I dont smoke and im pretty happy about the public ban ect as its saing my health but i honestly cant see the reason for making the legal age to buy cigaretts 18, when you can still smoke them at 16. Should have just made it illegal to buy them without first showing a form of ID.
Unless they did change it so you have to be 18 to smoke them? then i can see the sense in it i guess.
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Nic Barnes
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alcohol is 18 or 21 in some places to buy, doesnt stop underage drinking. if anything its worse now than its ever been.
the major factor in all this was when it became illegal for parents to smack their own kids.
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Ste L
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i dont mind how it is now, 18's find for cigs..
recon it should br 21 to alcohol personally
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ssj_kakarot
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Underage drinking in bars/night clubs is almost none exsistant in my area now. It used to be full of 15 year olds all the time so thats better.
As for kids drinking on street conrners ect, well thats more down to the parents and other people of legal age who still buy the alchol for them.
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Originally posted by nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by Ian
Quite by accident, I'm not a drug-taking smoker drunkard.
i was always allowed to drink the odd beer from when i was about 13-14. oddly, i dont drink any alcohol and havent done since i was about 22-23.
stop kids doing things and they do it. allow them, the thrill goes and they have no interest
Thats so true im 24 now and i havent had a drink in over a year.
yet when i was underage all i would do is drink
me too, i rarely drink now, but when i was under 18, i used to get shit face on beer
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--DAN--
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Its down to parents to control where their kids are, and what they are doing.
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by corsa-dan
Its down to parents to control where their kids are, and what they are doing.
how exactly is that possible these days? give them a little telling off? whats that going to achieve? the government has taken away all ways in which parents can control their kids and then blame the parents for their own doing.
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--DAN--
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ffs its the parents fault. what type of example do you think the lazy, benefit scrounging baby machines of the jeremy kyle generation are setting their kids?
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ssj_kakarot
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Originally posted by corsa-dan
ffs its the parents fault. what type of example do you think the lazy, benefit scrounging baby machines of the jeremy kyle generation are setting their kids?
couldnt have said it better, if kids grow up with scum parents who have no respect, teach no moral and ethics, take wht they want never work and never contribute to society just drain from it, the little shit kids grow up thinking this is a great style of life to emulate also.
[Edited on 01-10-2007 by ssj_kakarot]
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by corsa-dan
ffs its the parents fault. what type of example do you think the lazy, benefit scrounging baby machines of the jeremy kyle generation are setting their kids?
not all parents are like that. i know people from good areas that are just complete and utter wankers, yet their paretns are completely law abiding upstanding people, yet the lack of methods to discipline children has meant that they cant do anything.
its the governments fault long before its the parents fault. government, police not interested in dealing with issues, then the parents.
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ssj_kakarot
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Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by corsa-dan
ffs its the parents fault. what type of example do you think the lazy, benefit scrounging baby machines of the jeremy kyle generation are setting their kids?
not all parents are like that. i know people from good areas that are just complete and utter wankers, yet their paretns are completely law abiding upstanding people, yet the lack of methods to discipline children has meant that they cant do anything.
its the governments fault long before its the parents fault. government, police not interested in dealing with issues, then the parents.
sorry but if a parent still wants to smack there kids they are still going to, ive seen plenty of parents smack there children in supermarkets ect, not to mention my family still do it.
its got nothing to do with not being able to smack there kids or being able to.
its there attitude in general.
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drunkenfool
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good idea 
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Nic Barnes
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i have friends older than me that are scared of their 15 year old son, and another that are scared of their 16 year old daughter as they dont know what they are going to do next.
whos fault is that? the government. its also the governments fault for all the familys on benefit, making it so easy for them to get cash and live like fuck ups. dont give them the money, they will have to get a job, if they earn money they will have more respect for the things they have/own.
my cousin smashed up my uncles living room, trashed the car into the house wall and stole a few hundred quids worth of items from the house. my uncle got hold of him and gave him a good whack round the head. who do you think the police were more interested in when they arrived? who went to the cells for the night?
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jamesw
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agree 100% with muppet, the goverment has made this country a total joke
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deano87
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Originally posted by muppetsport
i fail to understand peoples needs for ass kissing. ian doesnt speak the truth, he just says it the way he sees it, like everyone else. it doesnt make it the truth at all.
twat. I'm not ass kissing. In my opinion, he was speaking the truth i.e. has the same opinion as me.
[Edited on 01-10-2007 by deano87]
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Steve
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lolz
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Carl
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I'm glad I don't work in an off licence any more
same here.
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Mather.16v
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Originally posted by muppetsport
i have friends older than me that are scared of their 15 year old son, and another that are scared of their 16 year old daughter as they dont know what they are going to do next.
whos fault is that? the government. its also the governments fault for all the familys on benefit, making it so easy for them to get cash and live like fuck ups. dont give them the money, they will have to get a job, if they earn money they will have more respect for the things they have/own.
WTF?? how can you directly blame the government if the kids are brought up to be lil rebels and the parents are scared of them , what a joke
if the parents were harder on them in the first place, i very much doubt the kids would be the way they are
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Steve
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listen mather, listen to barnes ok, else il slap you up
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Marc
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I don't care. I'm only replying in the hope that someone will be offended.
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nova_gteuk
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Originally posted by Mather.16v
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Originally posted by muppetsport
i have friends older than me that are scared of their 15 year old son, and another that are scared of their 16 year old daughter as they dont know what they are going to do next.
whos fault is that? the government. its also the governments fault for all the familys on benefit, making it so easy for them to get cash and live like fuck ups. dont give them the money, they will have to get a job, if they earn money they will have more respect for the things they have/own.
WTF?? how can you directly blame the government if the kids are brought up to be lil rebels and the parents are scared of them , what a joke
if the parents were harder on them in the first place, i very much doubt the kids would be the way they are
Hence why hes blaming the goverment 
You cant be hard on children thesse days,e.g you cant smack them.
If my parents had smacked me etc im sure i would of listened more
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