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Daimo B
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i find it amusing how all the people who smoke cannabis* are blatantley using the excuses outlined so they can get the drugs easier lets face it, thats all its about


*apart from drunkenfool


What??? Easier? Steve, its a peice of piss to get hold of? Or even grow? So stop talking BS.

You seem to have a lot of rubbish to say from someone thats never touched the stuff... Stilll, guess you know the facts
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i find it amusing how all the people who smoke cannabis* are blatantley using the excuses outlined so they can get the drugs easier lets face it, thats all its about


*apart from drunkenfool


Thats not true mate - I can get weed within half an hour of making a phone call- bought to my house...... Its not hard to get it

I just dont see why I should have to get involved with dealers, and drugs that I cant guarantee their safety...... this is why I now go to amsterdam to smoke-- the weed in this country can not be guaranteed as safe.
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you dont GAF about people who are on harder stuff or about it being sold in more pure form, all you care about is being able to walk into a shop and buy it
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It would be a shorter journey from my house to get weed than it would be to get alcohol in fact
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i would rather see them not take it at all



Well as you don't smoke it, never have, and have no interest in smoking it, why does it even bother you at all?

Seems you ahve too much to say about a subject you only have an opinion on on not much factual information on

Thats your opinion, but millions will feel otherwise, same as millions will agree.

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the reply was to DP's id like to see heroin, crack and acid users be treated more professionally, like i said before I dont have that much of a problem with weed.

its just obvious why you lot are arguing it thats all
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you dont GAF about people who are on harder stuff or about it being sold in more pure form, all you care about is being able to walk into a shop and buy it


Yes I would like to buy weed the same as I can buy alcohol. Safely without having to be involved in a criminal underworld.

Isnt that pretty obvious?
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the reply was to DP's id like to see heroin, crack and acid users be treated more professionally, like i said before I dont have that much of a problem with weed.

its just obvious why you lot are arguing it thats all


To be honest mate-- you are entitled to your opinion but I dont really think you understand the point we are making
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you dont GAF about people who are on harder stuff or about it being sold in more pure form, all you care about is being able to walk into a shop and buy it


As opposed to giving my money to some council dosser dealer who will spend it on god knows what.

Yeah, i'd much rather choose to go to a shop to buy it.

What a dumb idea eh Steve.

Pure form? What the hell are you on about. You really don't know sh1t do you steve.

Its different plant, different strains, different types. Just like you get Audi, Merc, Ford, Vauxhall. All different, but produce the same thing, a car...
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Seems you ahve too much to say about a subject you only have an opinion on on not much factual information on



I'm with Steve on this 1, the other thread contained a good debate, this 1 has turned into drug users wishing their weapon of choice to be legalised and other's disagreeing.
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i mean not cut with anything, believe it or not i have had a lot of exposure to drugs through mates, in fact i used to sit everynight in a car with them whilst they smoked it, driove them to dealer houses so they could buy it etc

[Edited on 27-07-2007 by Steve]
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the reply was to DP's id like to see heroin, crack and acid users be treated more professionally, like i said before I dont have that much of a problem with weed.

its just obvious why you lot are arguing it thats all


So, what your saying is, carry on feeding the dealers who could be in orgenised crime?

Instead of going to a legal shop, paying tax etc, and buying it legally...

Steve, go find another post to bore.
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Dont see the problem my self! just about to go and have a smoke now before i go to bed
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The point we are making is that it is rediculous to have cannabis upgraded on public health concerns.

If the issue is public health then we should be looking at legalising and controlling drugs- That is the only way to guarantee public health improves
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I'm with Steve on this 1, the other thread contained a good debate, this 1 has turned into drug users wishing their weapon of choice to be legalised and other's disagreeing.


Not really, this post is about cannabis. My opinions on the other forms of drug have been put in the appropriate post.

This is about green, so thats what the discussion is about.

And you lot say we've got mental issues when your saying feed the dealers instead of buying it legally like you would beer or fags....

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i dont care if cannabis is legalised

it does ok in amsterdam, my only concern would be some users may move onto more harmful stuff, not everyone, but some probably will
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You're assuming i dont smoke it, which i do.

I'm not going to say legalise it because of that though, it has detrimental effects i would personally rather not see on a wider scale post legalisation.
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Heroin is not actually a very damaging drug if you take it pure,


Lets start dishing out Heroin at school lunchtimes then eh, honest to god


Dont make yourself look any more silly by taking my quotes out of context-- read what I actually wrote... I was clearly talking about controlling its supply to users as part of a rehab programme
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they do, they get methodone
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Heroin is not actually a very damaging drug if you take it pure,


Lets start dishing out Heroin at school lunchtimes then eh, honest to god


Dont make yourself look any more silly by taking my quotes out of context-- read what I actually wrote... I was clearly talking about controlling its supply to users as part of a rehab programme


You said Heroin is a pretty harmless drug in its purest form, that's not out of context it's there in black and white. The only person making themselves look silly is you.

I can see your argument for the legalisation of cannabis but i'm questioning the motive behind it, is it for the greater good or is it so you can get high more often?
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Heroin is harmless. Yes because addiction is the most harmless thing in the world.
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One of my mates from school got right into smoking cannabis from an early age, 5 years on he becomes a recluse, stops playing football which he loved & was very good at, ends up very paranoid & stops coming out completelly, within another 5 years he's been sectioned under the mental health act several times then ended up taking his own life.

I think its a bad drug as I cannot see anything else that send my mate the way he went. Im by no means anti drugs btw but I could never become a stonner or adicted to anything. Once it stops being a bit of fun & you get addicted & into serious usage your asking for trouble!!
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quote:
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One of my mates from school got right into smoking cannabis from an early age, 5 years on he becomes a recluse, stops playing football which he loved & was very good at, ends up very paranoid & stops coming out completelly, within another 5 years he's been sectioned under the mental health act several times then ended up taking his own life.



I haven't been sectioned yet lol, but it has definately changed me. I can see it has but don't stop smoking it. Been doin it for years now, hard to break the habit. When I get home of an evening, cigs are replaced by spliffs. 3-4 spliffs mon-fri and 5-6 on a friday and saturday. Monged isn't the word
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Anyone else suffer memory loss? Like as soon as your told something forget it?
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I haven't been sectioned yet lol, but it has definately changed me. I can see it has but don't stop smoking it. Been doin it for years now, hard to break the habit. When I get home of an evening, cigs are replaced by spliffs. 3-4 spliffs mon-fri and 5-6 on a friday and saturday. Monged isn't the word


See he was probably enjoying it at your age too & thought it was a fun way to unwind in the evening. He was 1st sectioned at 21 years old after a spout of very odd goings on & tbh never managed to recover from it, he hung himself in the local woods not long after his 25th B.day.

Sad thing in all of this is his girlfriend was pregnant with twins, he'll never know or get to see them as they will be without a father.

Yea some of you will say 'its never effected me' but thats not going to say it wont ever!!

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