mk4_astra
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I bet he is black
rodney king was black yes, but he did get one hell of a beating for no reason. anyone who wants to see the footage just type his name into youtube etc..
if you meant the bloke who quoted it to being another rodney king case then he was black aswell, and over reacting on racial terms and just exploiting the fact she wasnt pure white!
oh and before anyone has a go at me for being racist... i am infact mixed race and the majority of my family are from trinidad. just over there they arent the chip on your shoulder type, they just drink rum and dance to soca
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GT4Brody
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I had a mate from Trinidad, Keston, he was a top bloke, as you say he was layed back and without attitude. went back there in the end.
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chris-sri
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Ps Anyone who compares this to Rodney King is a complete idiot imo. Rodney King was kicked on the floor by a group of Police Officers and as I recall he was not fighting back.
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Steve
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the type of behaviour presented by these officers would be totally acceptable in america
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Robin
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Originally posted by Dave A
I bet he is black
rodney king was black yes
I think Dave meant the bloke who was comparing it to the Rodney King case...
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Danny P
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Should have just kicked her in the cunt
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Steve
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what would her badger be
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andy1868
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it really cracks me up when everyone moans about the police not doing their job, and then when they do go off on an eppy 
[Edited on 08-03-2007 by andy1868]
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All Torque
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Originally posted by GT4Brody
Trouble is, most of the time it is someone of a different colour/foreigner that is commiting the offences these days. But people are too scared to say this as they fear being called racist 
Exactly like the people who were shot when police raided their house, they said its because they're Asian that police think they were planning bombs/explosives... Too right! Why would a White British person want to blow up themselves and other people on buses, trains etc etc 
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Twiggy
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Originally posted by Eckmcmann
She got what she deserved.
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andy1868
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quote:
Originally posted by All Torque
Why would a White British person want to blow up themselves and other people on buses, trains etc etc
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Ludacris Turbo
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Originally posted by abdus
'Brute' force should NOT have been used. The PC himself stated that he used 'Brute' force and all the force he could. They shouldn't. This is against PACE 1984 And one man even used his foot to restrain her
[Edited on 08-03-2007 by abdus]
Section 117 of PACE allows the Police to use force that is reasonable in the circumstances to allow them to excercise any of their PACE powers. The fact that the Officer documented that he punched her 5 times as hard as he could will benefit him in the investigation. Police can use deadly force if the circumstances allow hence firearms Officers - it's the same PACE power that authorises them to fire.
The Officer has said that she was resisting arrest, her arms were free and she was trying to grab, knee and kick him in the genitals. The footage certainly shows them falling down the stairs and a struggle on the floor. The thing that people sometimes forget is that the Officer doesn't know if she has a knife or anything. It is for the enquiry to decide on whether the force was reasonable and the Officer to justify his actions. She is fighting and he is trying to gain control. As for those who say a man punching a woman is wrong under normal domestic type circumstances I would agree whole heartedly. However women can fight just as hard as men and if they have a knife they can kill.
I am not saying what he did was right but offering an alternative opinion as we don't know all the facts we'll have to wait for the enquiry.
Very good point to make as the ''Niche'' in Sheffield is renowned for people that get tooled up. There has been many shootings and stabbings there in the past.
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All Torque
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Originally posted by All Torque
Why would a White British person want to blow up themselves and other people on buses, trains etc etc
http://www.tkb.org/documents/Groups/GR55_iramural.jpg
Whoops :redface:
Maybe I meant English. I forgot about that. 
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andy1868
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its ok, i forgive you 
back on topic, from the bottom of my heart, the slag can get to fuck.
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drax
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DOWN WITH PARLIMENT
UP WITH MONARCHY
Give the monarchy the power back. I want some one with some history and real power to run this country instead of the fucking jokes that come into power now and then.
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andy1868
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how will that alleviate the problem? the monarchy would be more harsh than the government, beheadings here, hangings there etc
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Steve
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exactly
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Robin
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Originally posted by andy1868
how will that alleviate the problem? the monarchy would be more harsh than the government, beheadings here, hangings there etc
an eye for an eye 
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andy1868
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we're arguing about police brutality, not deterents for offenders.
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chris-sri
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Another point that is worth bringing up is the fact that the situation is violent, Her arms are free so he cant use any sort of arm/wrist locks to get control. The Officer can't get to his CS which would be the preferred way of dealing with that and he is too close to use it in any case. Therefore unarmed sriking techniques are the next step up in the chain.
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andy1868
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Originally posted by chris-sri
Another point that is worth bringing up is the fact that the situation is violent, Her arms are free so he cant use any sort of arm/wrist locks to get control. The Officer can't get to his CS which would be the preferred way of dealing with that and he is too close to use it in any case. Therefore unarmed sriking techniques are the next step up in the chain.
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trickshot2005
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i dont even know whats happening with this situation anymore cause my heads in two places it happened about a couple of years why did it take long to do something about thats what i want to know. I'm black myself and i think political correctness has gone screwy!
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chris-sri
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Originally posted by andy1868
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Originally posted by chris-sri
Another point that is worth bringing up is the fact that the situation is violent, Her arms are free so he cant use any sort of arm/wrist locks to get control. The Officer can't get to his CS which would be the preferred way of dealing with that and he is too close to use it in any case. Therefore unarmed sriking techniques are the next step up in the chain.
Not really. It's just a bit of information for people who might not have had access to it otherwise. Some people seem to be very quick to jump on the band wagon without being in possession of information from both sides. As I said earlier I don't have all the facts so I will wait for the enquiry.
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andy1868
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i was stating that i agreed in pictoral form, if i was a cleverer person i would have come up with something better
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chris-sri
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Sorry mate I thought you were having a go
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