drunkenfool
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Can they find out your criminal record on the roadside then? :S 
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drax
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They can do that from your name and address anyway?
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ed
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Yes, so they can arrest you for other crimes when doing a roadside check from what I heard.
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ed
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Oh, but the law needs to be changed before any of this can even be used.
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Ojc
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Originally posted by ed
If you ask people what they would do if they won the lottery, I would say a good 80% of the people would say that they would fuck off to a different country. I want to go to a place where telling somone they don't like thier religios dress is not a massive deal, where kids are actuall disciplined and where criminals are punnished in prison.
You want to go to Pakistan? 
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ed
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No I want to find an oil rig and turn it into my own country and see how long it takes until I am branded a terrorist.
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CorsAsh
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If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to worry about.
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mav
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There has been cases IIRC someone being jailed due to a mix up with fingerprints....Don't ask me details but sure there has..
I don't agree with the fact you get stopped and finger printed for minor road offence...
There will be mistakes made, I can guarantee that...
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Nath
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Originally posted by CorsAsh
If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to worry about.
Exactly, but that is a lazy person's view according to King Paranoia Ojc.
[Edited on 22-11-2006 by Nath]
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Danny P
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
Yes, so they can arrest you for other crimes when doing a roadside check from what I heard.
If you have a warrant outstading for your arrest then yeah they can
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Hammer
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Originally posted by CorsAsh
If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to worry about.
My view on the matter as well.
On the one hand you have idiots saying this country is a dump, criminals run wild and free and on the other they start shooting down new innovative ways in which to rid the country of the pollutant sector of society because it encroaches their civil liberties 
It's the lack of education in this country that has it on it's knees.
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Cosmo
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BUT TBH where does it stop, if we allow them to start finger printing us for no reason then its just one more of many ideas they'll start bringing to to watch us more.
There are other ways to get rid of crime in the country before making law obidding citizens give up more information on themselves...such as actually make punishments a deterrant instead of going easy on people and giving them so much of a nice time in prison.
Id rather see my tax money spent on more 6x6' boxes for criminals to be stuffed into than machines to finger print anyone and everyone!
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Nath
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Originally posted by Cosmo
BUT TBH where does it stop, if we allow them to start finger printing us for no reason then its just one more of many ideas they'll start bringing to to watch us more.
Its not for no reason though, its because they suspect something isn't right.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Nath
Its not for no reason though, its because they suspect something isn't right.
But do you really think they will stick to this or just gradually start finger printing everyone, as I know which I think it'll be!
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Nath
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Well as i've only been stopped once in 5 years of driving i've not got much to worry about.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Nath
Well as i've only been stopped once in 5 years of driving i've not got much to worry about.
aye, have only ever been stopped once aswell when I got done for speeding by a copper with a hand held 
TBH though its just an easy way for them to introduce us to the system and then eventually roll it out on a larger scale...when you crash, get done for speeding, everyone who gets pulled over even if not dodgey...and just use it as an excuse to 'check for bad people with outstanding warrants on them'.
If they wanted to deal with the problems then start at the root and stop it there, rather than once people have already become criminals.
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Nath
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If it catches people out then good. I agree it shouldnt come to this but if it works then its fine by me.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Nath
If it catches people out then good. I agree it shouldnt come to this but if it works then its fine by me.
yeah, no doubt it will catch some and I am all for that side of it, but it is just an easy way to introduce us to it under a banner of it doing some good....but then again so were speed cameras and look at those now!
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Colin
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Is it not a breach of human rights being interigated (request for fingerprints) at random without any spacific crime being investigated 
Also where does this end....if successful whats next on the agenda - random colon searches (rubber glove up the keechter) to see if your couriering drugs in your ass 
If its optional (roadside fingerprints) thats ok but id rather stay anonymous!!
[Edited on 23-11-2006 by Colin]
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Cosmo
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you can refuse to give them at the moment (they will use the few random successes to make it law no doubt) and if they are really unsure then they have to arrest you and take you down that station...but they wont do that unless there is some sort of reason for doing so.
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Id rather see my tax money spent on more 6x6' boxes for criminals to be stuffed into
Don't forget to leave some money aside to pay them when they sue you for not providing them with drugs.
I'm not particularly fussed about the fingerprinting tbh. I've been stopped by Merseyside Police enough times driving a good car with no hair to be assumed to be a criminal anyway, I may as well prove I'm not in 4 minutes rather than half an hour.
Look on the bright side, no one on the sex offenders register will EVER get away with minor motoring offenses again.
"We'll let you off with a warning today regarding your 34 in a 30 don't do it aga... *BEEP* *BEEP* no... wait.... that'll be £60 please you sex pest"
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Steve
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IL TELL YOU WHAT FUCKING STINKS
my mrs works in cat. A prison, they have all been told they cannot put decorations up ANYWHERE or bring presents in. WHY?
Because its a "depressing" time of the year for inmates because they dont see there familys
WHO THE FUCKING HELL INVENTS THESE POLICIES
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Ian
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Would there be any reason not to park outside with Christmas tunes blaring
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Steve
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haha i might do that to piss them off
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Steve
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i expect someone was paid £35k to come up with that suggestion about no decorations.
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