VegasPhil
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Not again 
Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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johnscorsaXE
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but arent the inlets the same on 1.4 and 1.6?
if so, then the power gain should be the same
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Robin
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I'm not arguing, I believe you, Jamsport rollers are decent, and the inlet you have will give a bigger figure than a lexmaul, like me. so yeah, sounds right 
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
20-30bhp gain on a 1.4 without a remap?  where did u get that from? I proberly just gained 20bhp from inlet and manifold back, and thats on a 1.6 
VKR Mantzel.
TUV German approved tuners...
They don't make BS claims as its all tested, hence the TUV statues...
But, that inlet is a home made design one, but fundimentally, its the same as a Mantzel.
Im just quoting, im not getting into the willy waving 1.4 fight. I had a 1.4, decided it wasn't a good enough engine (Vs the 1.6) so didn't tune it, and got a 2.0....
1.4 16v is superb in regards of 1.4 16v engines in motorsport, but Vs the bitgger 1.6, its very underpowered (torque mostly).
Donnas made a fair bit more than 20bhp from her modifcations.
[Edited on 17-11-2006 by VXR]
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by johnscorsaXE
so are we arguing the power of my 1.4 now?
lol
how are the rollers at jampsort? reliable readings?
No. I just couldnt understand where VXR got his claims of 30bhp from a inlet on a standard 1.4. I personally dont disbelieve you 
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johnscorsaXE
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well for a 1.4, i think ive got a vey decent one with these power gains.
im sure evryone will agree too that the 1.6 is better.
but u cant compare the power gains from the 1.4 and 1.6, as the 1.6 is bound to have more power with same mods
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johnscorsaXE
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im lost lol
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by johnscorsaXE
well for a 1.4, i think ive got a vey decent one with these power gains.
im sure evryone will agree too that the 1.6 is better.
but u cant compare the power gains from the 1.4 and 1.6, as the 1.6 is bound to have more power with same mods
Well i've only got 10bhp more, with a manifold, decat and full system, and it being a 1.6
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johnscorsaXE
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this is my spec
astra x14xe
corsa inlet
aftermarket manifold
corsa throttle body
de-restricted airbox
back box
power: 115bhp, 100lb/ft torque
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Robin
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you do get good engines and bad ones though, same mods on 2 different engines of the same type won't always make the same power.
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johnscorsaXE
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
quote:
Originally posted by johnscorsaXE
well for a 1.4, i think ive got a vey decent one with these power gains.
im sure evryone will agree too that the 1.6 is better.
but u cant compare the power gains from the 1.4 and 1.6, as the 1.6 is bound to have more power with same mods
Well i've only got 10bhp more, with a manifold, decat and full system, and it being a 1.6
yes, i understand that my power gain is high for the mods i have.
but im not complaining.
but i do believe that my results are accurate
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
you do get good engines and bad ones though, same mods on 2 different engines of the same type won't always make the same power.
My enigne is running pretty much mint after the work ive just had done it so hopefully might see more than 125bhp. Might get it rollered at PVS TBH
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johnscorsaXE
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
quote:
Originally posted by Robin
you do get good engines and bad ones though, same mods on 2 different engines of the same type won't always make the same power.
My enigne is running pretty much mint after the work ive just had done it so hopefully might see more than 125bhp. Might get it rollered at PVS TBH
lol, is that cuz those rollers are waaaaayy out? lol
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by johnscorsaXE
quote:
Originally posted by Monster
quote:
Originally posted by Robin
you do get good engines and bad ones though, same mods on 2 different engines of the same type won't always make the same power.
My enigne is running pretty much mint after the work ive just had done it so hopefully might see more than 125bhp. Might get it rollered at PVS TBH
lol, is that cuz those rollers are waaaaayy out? lol
Yup
Edit - my standard 1.6 sport rollered at 115bhp
[Edited on 17-11-2006 by Monster]
[Edited on 17-11-2006 by Monster]
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johnscorsaXE
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115 on a stock 1.6?? lol
was that on those rollers too??
if so, fcuk hoping 125, im estimating 150 lol
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jr
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I personally think 26bhp from an inlet is too much IMO, after running 2 out of the 3 popular ones
my old 1.4 had to have loads of mds to get its power figure
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by johnscorsaXE
115 on a stock 1.6?? lol
was that on those rollers too??
if so, fcuk hoping 125, im estimating 150 lol
Yup! Still have the reading too
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johnscorsaXE
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
I personally think 26bhp from an inlet is too much IMO, after running 2 out of the 3 popular ones
my old 1.4 had to have loads of mds to get its power figure
so if id had it dyno'd...are you trying to say that the power figure is un accurate? 
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jr
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i dont know, just from running a 1.4 with a spec list as long as your arm, and producing about 20bhp more im doubting it
going on the basis you running a manztel copy, and the fact i still think nearly 30bhp is far to high a gain from a inlet only im doubting to power figure from that run
i may be wrong
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johnscorsaXE
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well in all circumstances, dyno results always seem to bring up questions from other people. i understand my result was a high figure, but this is what was proven by putting it on the rollers. on the same day, other cars where getting pretty standard results too. so i have no reason not to beleive my result.
anyway, lets get back on topic.
who likes my engine? lol
anyone got any other idea to make it better?
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