Dom
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so your saying, if i spent 36k on that (even though a golf is about 15k cheaper and faster/safer/better handling) and i rag the tits off it and use it as a daily driver - within a year or two it would be worth 40k+?
I think not  In mint cond. (which it currently is) then maybe, but then you would need to lock it up and keep it mint - which is against the point of owning a car.
However, im willing to eat my own hat if someone stumps up 36k on here and uses it as a daily driver, putting 10-12k miles on the clock a year and then try and sell it after two years or so for 40k+ 
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To homologate the 205 T16 Group B rally car, Peugeot had to produce 200 road-going examples. A photograph showing the 200 cars was famously rumoured to be a fake. The road variants shared the transverse mid-engine, four-wheel drive layout of the rally car, but had much less power, at around 200 PS (147 kW). The T was for Turbo; the 16 for the 16 valves that the 4-cylinder 1.8 L engine had.
Outwardly similar to a normal 205, the T16 had wider wheel arches, and the whole rear section lifted up to give access to the engine. Underneath, the complex drivetrain from the rally car was kept to abide by the Group B rules. All 200 built were left-hand drive, so few reached the United Kingdom, where only 4 are known to exist. Unlike Group B rivals Ford Motor Company (with the RS200) and Lancia, Peugeot's road-based cars were never raced.
Only 200 were made, and this one is basically brand new... that is worth so much more than 36k
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Dom
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Originally posted by Robin
its worth whatever someone is willing to pay.
agreed and they have to be a nutter or someone with stupid amounts of money 
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jr
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do you not get the point 
you can buy an escoss today, do 8k mils and sell it next year for more than you paid for it, its the way this classic car thing works
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Eck
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or someone who has the money, and truly appreciates it for what it is 
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Cybermonkey
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besides, you could spend the money on a piece of modern tosh, thats just as fast, and more reliable, but will it be more enjoyable, raw, and downright cool? will it fuck
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Lee Wilson
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Amazing 
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Rob H
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/104346.htm
Saved £11k, over double the power, and doesn't look cack .
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City
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/104346.htm
Saved £11k, over double the power, and doesn't look cack .
that car older you fucking dick
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Robin
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it does look cack, the windscreen is wrong, its a ur Quattro, with a foot lopped out of the floorpan, and the wrong windscreen angle. 
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Robin
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also, its not a genuine homologated rally car, its a (cheap) copy.
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Cybermonkey
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, and doesn't look cack .
are you blind? as much as i love that Audi, it is FUGLY
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nickyboy01
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Quite amusing how everyone keeps saying its brand new
Its 22 years old FFS so far from brand new, its also done 900 miles so far from delivery mileage. It is also French registered by the looks of it although those plates could mean anything, just because it hasnt been registered in the UK doesnt make it brand new and unregistered!
Classic car by all means but nothing special in my opinion.
The auction looks like a scam to me as well, user registered as Claude?? How cliche can you get for a French seller? And hardly a blinding description is it, would make sense to make a song and dance about it if expecting £40kodd for it
[Edited on 14-10-2006 by nickyboy01]
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Dom
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
besides, you could spend the money on a piece of modern tosh, thats just as fast, and more reliable, but will it be more enjoyable, raw, and downright cool? will it fuck
Ultima GTR, TVR, AC Cobra, Noble - faster, safer, all handle a lot better and certainly just as raw, if not more so!
jr - get the point of classics?!, of course i do, Bentley's, Morgans, Aston (DB5s etc). I just dont think you could drive this car putting on thousands of miles on a 36k "classic" car (with wear and tear) and expect it to pile on the pounds over a few years.
Why arent Cosworths (standard) with 80-100k+ on the clocks going for 5/60k?? 
If that mint one with a mile on the clock went for 30k odd (not 100% on sold figure but correct me if i wrong).
Eitherway, you lot are getting far too stressy over a car that you lot can't afford - like i said, someone take up the challenge and i and the rest of us will be proven wrong 
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Eck
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if only that Quattro was an original Sport and what in your opinion is a special car then nicky?
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ClaireF
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dont like it at all
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Cybermonkey
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proven wrong about what? it is an iconic car, just as much as a group B homologation Integrale. it has cult status and is highly collectable, hence the price. it is worth every penny, and then some.
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Dom
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quote:
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proven wrong about what? it is an iconic car, just as much as a group B homologation Integrale. it has cult status and is highly collectable, hence the price. it is worth every penny, and then some.
its worth it to a collector, but im talking about it increasing in money yet still managing to use it as a daily driver putting on thousands of miles along with wear and tear
Im not denying that Group B cars are stupidly awsome, mainly because they were so mental and technology was advancing more so than F1 (and the likes) during the same time period.
But my personal opinion is that it isn't worth and it would be dead money in owning a car that i would have to keep locked up.
If i had the money, then i would probably buy a group B to add to my collection, but none of us here can honestly say that if we had 36k (not spare, but to buy a daily car) you'd place it all on that.
I can understand that we all have our fantasies in owning a "classic" car, mine would be a F50, but a) certainly dont have the 500k to buy something like that, b) i couldnt use it as a daily driver (imagine trying to park that at uni ) and c) being up here, it would get nicked quicker than a fat bastard to free burgers
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Robin
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'tis true, if I had 50k to spend on a car, ti wouldn't be that, if I had enough money to buy that as well, it would be a waste as I wouldn't drive it.
and I don't think I'd buy it anyway.
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Andyrs1800
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What a load of crap, this post should be locked so no more idiots can tell us that this car is not worth the money, i think its worth easy double or more, its not sumthin that any1 can buy or be driven every day, its sumthin that wants to go in a museum and be looked after,
I see people spending loadsa money maxpowering corsa's that have a 1.0 engine and cant possibly be driven on public roads,
I know what i'd rather have and i know that any1 who knows anythin about (proper) cars will agree with me,
If i ever in my life own a car like this 1 i will be well chuffed, same goes for a rs200, delta s4 etc etc, these cars are king, so king in fact that the government got scared and banned em 
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Dom
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Andy, why call us realists idiots? Is it because we/i dont share the same opinions as you? or because you dont know what a debatable discussion is? 
You seem to be incapable of reading this post, as i (and others) have stated many times that this car/group B cars are/is awsome, but it isnt worth the money for something that should be locked away and not see the road.
Fair enough if you own a museum and have the money to burn on a paper weight, but surely that goes against the whole point in owning a car?
And also, you seem to know sweet FA to why Group B rally cars were given the boot - one of the reasons was due to Joaquim Santos loosing control of his RS200 killing 4 people. Plenty more accidents happened, like the S4, and the FIA thought it was all too risky so stopped it.
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Andyrs1800
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I know exactly why they banned em, i know exactly what this post is about, i even have the pics sumwhere, sick of these maxpower people who dont have a clue,
You are the only person who does not agree,
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Dom
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Originally posted by Andyrs1800
I know exactly why they banned em, i know exactly what this post is about, i even have the pics sumwhere, sick of these maxpower people who dont have a clue,
You are the only person who does not agree,
lol me a maxpower, piss off...i own a standard B shopping trolley - you know why, because its CHEAP!!
and i believe robin also thinks it wouldn't be worth buying -
so again andy, i refer you re-read what is being posted and stop PMS'ing all over the show because you're incapable to realise that it isn't plain black and white and that people do disagree with whats being said.
So lets leave it as that
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harry bum
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FOR 36K YOU COULD BUY A REAL CAR FOR THAT MONEY.
POOR FRENCHY HE IS CLEARLY NOT PLAYING WITH A FULL HAND!!!!
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Andyrs1800
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Bored now. but maybe u will excite me by tellin me what a proper car is?
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