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Dean_W
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25th Aug 06 at 12:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
Id like to see Meat pie SRi's input TBH


And At all of you who clearly know NOTHING about police driver training


Enlighten us then Jambo.
Dom
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25th Aug 06 at 12:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
And At all of you who clearly know NOTHING about police driver training


clearly know nothing, then again my brother didn't take it for shits and giggles either

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Dom]
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25th Aug 06 at 12:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im sure blebo is a copper aswell


but of course they would be biased
Edd
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25th Aug 06 at 12:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i watched traffic cops one night and it was showing you a copper having to sit his test thing again as they need to do it every 3 years or so, so he's chasing the "stolen car" and overtakes into oncomming traffic the examiner gives him a rollicking for it then passes him


very strict

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Edd]
Jambo
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25th Aug 06 at 12:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do your own research FFS, or take a minute to consider if they are all that bad, what the hell is going on all over the country as all these rookie incompetent police drivers cant do their jobs properly.


They have to put up with so much shit and IMO do a good job, its not their fault about the speed limits and what they get told to enforce its their job FFS!!!
Ally
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quote:
Originally posted by Edd
i watched traffic cops one night and it was showing you a copper having to sit his test thing again as they need to do it every 3 years or so, so he's chasing the "stolen car" and overtakes into oncomming traffic the examiner gives him a rollicking for it then passes him


very strict

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Edd]


Edd i think i saw that one, passed a jag or somthing in a silver car??
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
And At all of you who clearly know NOTHING about police driver training


clearly know nothing, then again my brother didn't take it for shits and giggles either

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Dom]



He considers it innadequate?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ally
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
i watched traffic cops one night and it was showing you a copper having to sit his test thing again as they need to do it every 3 years or so, so he's chasing the "stolen car" and overtakes into oncomming traffic the examiner gives him a rollicking for it then passes him


very strict

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Edd]


Edd i think i saw that one, passed a jag or somthing in a silver car??



yep


other driver had to brake heavily to let him back in
Dom
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25th Aug 06 at 12:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
quote:
Originally posted by Dom
quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
And At all of you who clearly know NOTHING about police driver training


clearly know nothing, then again my brother didn't take it for shits and giggles either

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Dom]



He considers it innadequate?


no, i never said he thought it was inadequate - he said it wasn't as hard as people make out, just requires lots of consentration and common sense, something which is in the grasp of the majority of people.
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25th Aug 06 at 13:12   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
quote:
Originally posted by LoudandLow
If u think he has more right explain why ?


because he has the training meaning he would be able to handle such a manoveure
and also he was using it for police related work. To benefit the public and his police force.

Id say thats reasons enough.


like ian says what was he testing at 150mph? he could well know the cars capable of those speeds by looking inthe book. There is no handling as such to test at those speeds
Jambo
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I never said it was "hard" thats besides the point dom,
i was mentioning that the job as well as training would mean these people are far more equipped to handle a car with KG's worth of equipment in it etc than any tom dick and harry with a fast car on a motorway.

And i assume the training is made for the majority of people" so they can train them quickly and get more traffic cops?

Either way they would be a better driver, and as for the driver going to advanced training schools: yes you can but has the "majority" of people? No. so thats a tad irrellevant? And in the case someone was caught doing speeds as such with driver training id say that would be taken into consideration by the courts etc.

id like to add as well that going in a straight line at 140mph is not as "easy" as it sounds! If you dont practice/get used to it then they would shit themselves going that fast, which wouldnt be very good.

Plus choppers are all well and good, but you still need the cars to apprehend them, chopper is only eyes. The cars still have to drive fast to keep up/persue.

I am in no way saying police are invincible drivers, as seems to touched a nerve with some of you. Merely they will be far more competent than joe public, therefore how could one rule apply for two different things?
Tommy
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25th Aug 06 at 13:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think the result has been pretty fair.
Dean_W
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25th Aug 06 at 13:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
I never said it was "hard" thats besides the point dom,
i was mentioning that the job as well as training would mean these people are far more equipped to handle a car with KG's worth of equipment in it etc than any tom dick and harry with a fast car on a motorway.

And i assume the training is made for the majority of people" so they can train them quickly and get more traffic cops?

Either way they would be a better driver, and as for the driver going to advanced training schools: yes you can but has the "majority" of people? No. so thats a tad irrellevant? And in the case someone was caught doing speeds as such with driver training id say that would be taken into consideration by the courts etc.

id like to add as well that going in a straight line at 140mph is not as "easy" as it sounds! If you dont practice/get used to it then they would shit themselves going that fast, which wouldnt be very good.

Plus choppers are all well and good, but you still need the cars to apprehend them, chopper is only eyes. The cars still have to drive fast to keep up/persue.

I am in no way saying police are invincible drivers, as seems to touched a nerve with some of you. Merely they will be far more competent than joe public, therefore how could one rule apply for two different things?


Off duty. No lights.

That's how one rules applies in my eyes.
Tommy
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quote:
Originally posted by LoudandLow
I think the result has been pretty fair.



From playing need for speed dont the bellyfloppers tell ground police where the suspect car is heading and put spike strips down ??
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What if you can't get the helicopter because it's involved in another operation?

If he had been going that fast and caught someone who had abducted a child he would be all over the press as a hero. One day that experience may save someones life driving in a straight line SAFELY at that speed is not easy. A former Police driving instructor viewed the tape and said his road positioning was spot on all the way through.
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25th Aug 06 at 13:21   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

he drove in a straight line on a clear road at 150mph how is it not possible to position yourself any other way

there is no safe 150mph either on a public road

also you are mistaking this incident with someone who was off duty, he wasnt chasing someone whilst doing it

[Edited on 25-08-2006 by Steve]
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25th Aug 06 at 13:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

He wasnt chasing n e 1
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25th Aug 06 at 13:29   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

typo missed the nt
Tommy
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25th Aug 06 at 13:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ok ill let u off
chris-sri
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No he wasn't chasing anyone.

You miss my point. Of course it cannot be 100% safe however safety is relative. He is an Police advanced driver and is therefore going to be more safe than me for example. At the end of the day it's all very well for everyone to sit behind a keyboard and say "thats terrible that, it was so unsafe and dangerous" when they know full well they will never be in the position where they have to put their life in danger pursuing a dangerous criminal. They have to be allowed to practice.
Lynny
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quote:
Originally posted by chris-sri
No he wasn't chasing anyone.

You miss my point. Of course it cannot be 100% safe however safety is relative. He is an Police advanced driver and is therefore going to be more safe than me for example. At the end of the day it's all very well for everyone to sit behind a keyboard and say "thats terrible that, it was so unsafe and dangerous" when they know full well they will never be in the position where they have to put their life in danger pursuing a dangerous criminal. They have to be allowed to practice.


do a search on here for 'caught speeding' posts, i just had a good laugh
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25th Aug 06 at 13:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by chris-sri
No he wasn't chasing anyone.

You miss my point. Of course it cannot be 100% safe however safety is relative. He is an Police advanced driver and is therefore going to be more safe than me for example. At the end of the day it's all very well for everyone to sit behind a keyboard and say "thats terrible that, it was so unsafe and dangerous" when they know full well they will never be in the position where they have to put their life in danger pursuing a dangerous criminal. They have to be allowed to practice.


i dont think you quite understand, what was he practising at 150mph on a straight road??

i could even see your point if maybe he was caning round some lanes, theres more to test there, but nothing to test at 150mph ina straight line, other than hold on tight
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25th Aug 06 at 13:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

apparantely he was reported by a CTR driver passing him in 1st gear
Tommy
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thats not v nice
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no shame on you 3cm

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