Ry_B
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Originally posted by Nath
Right nice generalisation. Does that include the Astra VXR, VX220, VXR220, LC, Nova Sport, Manta.......
Yes.
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Robin
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Originally posted by Jules S
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Originally posted by ed
But the Ford looks like a midlife crisis. The Vauxhall looks good.
Isn't that the point they were making?
People carriers ARE designed for people in their late 30s/40s...and that age group may not be comfortable with the styling of the vxR?
vauxhall have done it for the sole reason that the zafira gsi accounted for the biggest percentage of zafira sales when compared to the other engines/trim levels, so the market is there, people who are 30/40 with family, but need a practical car often want something quick and lairy looking
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Russ
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Originally posted by robmarriott
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Originally posted by Jules S
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Originally posted by ed
But the Ford looks like a midlife crisis. The Vauxhall looks good.
Isn't that the point they were making?
People carriers ARE designed for people in their late 30s/40s...and that age group may not be comfortable with the styling of the vxR?
vauxhall have done it for the sole reason that the zafira gsi accounted for the biggest percentage of zafira sales when compared to the other engines/trim levels, so the market is there, people who are 30/40 with family, but need a practical car often want something quick and lairy looking
is that a random guess? no way GSI is highest selling zafira, or are you saying, more people have bought a 2.0 GSI than a 1.8 club, or a 1.6 club?
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Robin
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i'm 90% sure i read it somewhere. i'll try to prove myself right/wrong.
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Robin
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and remember there's not just one trim level for each engine.....
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Russ
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Originally posted by robmarriott
and remember there's not just one trim level for each engine.....
yeah i know, thats the only way gsi could have won that. only available in 1 engine size
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Robin
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thats what i mean, more gsis were sold than any single other spec/engine combo as a percentage, probably not by much though
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Adam_B
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Originally posted by Ry_B
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Originally posted by Nath
Right nice generalisation. Does that include the Astra VXR, VX220, VXR220, LC, Nova Sport, Manta.......
Yes.
you have no fucking clue, there only one of the original giant killers in british rallying.
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Robin
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but its a nova, and novas are ugly 
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Adam_B
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true, especially yellow ones with no head unit or rear window eh?
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Robin
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exactly. horrible cars. theyve got no character, look shite, and are just generally rubbish 
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Cybermonkey
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[Edited on 24-07-2006 by mav]
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ed
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quote:
Originally posted by Jules S
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Originally posted by ed
But the Ford looks like a midlife crisis. The Vauxhall looks good.
Isn't that the point they were making?
People carriers ARE designed for people in their late 30s/40s...and that age group may not be comfortable with the styling of the vxR?
Vauxhall have sold more Astra VXR's to over 60's than people in the intended demographic. Old people aren;t as boring as people would like to think.
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Cybermonkey
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well said ed.
Jules, how many of the Zafira GSi's have you seen on the road? there are a lot out there! it is a very popular car, particularly to the early 30's generation who have young kids but still pretend they are in their 20's. Here in auz, people have been screaming at Holden to have the hot Zafira, its an undiscovered market, which has just been uncovered by Ford, who have put the 350bhp XR6 Turbo engine into a 4WD Territory. its a 7 seater.
http://www.ford.com.au/range/territory/models/ghiaturboawd.asp
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mwg
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What I can never understand is they complain about Vauxhalls being bland and boring so then Vauxhall go and make VXR's and they complain that they are too lairy and in your face Really cant win with them 
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Jules
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Originally posted by Ry_B
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Originally posted by Nath
Right nice generalisation. Does that include the Astra VXR, VX220, VXR220, LC, Nova Sport, Manta.......
Yes.
Nothing wrong with Nova Sport seats? infact for their time they are very very supportive (build on Recaro frames iirc)
OK the pattern may of been a bit naff but remember it was the early 80's....
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Ally
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watching the build that kit car was funny and the stig at the end, is this your car sir..... is this car stolen sir....
Cant beat the caravan one thou from the other week!
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3CorsaMeal
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^^^there the bits that aren't real tho 
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Jules
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Yeah it's pretty gay how TG have started making crap up to fill the show
The caravan thing, the building the kit car - all very very fake.
Can;t it go back to being the old Top Gear which was enjoyable from start to finish? Currently it's 50% enjoyable 50% cringeworthy
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Ally
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why are they fake?
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Ry_B
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I find most of it enjoyable TBH. The part I hate is when they have a star in a reasonably priced car. They chat about shit for a good 10-15 mins. Half the time you don't even know who it is for a start
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Edd
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i am enjoying fifth gear more than top gear lately
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mwg
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I thought it was better than last weeks.
Cant believe people were sad enough to complain about them burning the caravans
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Ry_B
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Originally posted by Matty G
Cant believe people were sad enough to complain about them burning the caravans
global warming n all that
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Scoty B
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Topgear is a great show, if you want a review watch 5th Gear. The 2 go well together IMO.
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