ssj_kakarot
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no i meen the whole thing i just dont think they can make it stick, should phone up some of the tabloid newspapers bet they would eat this story up.
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Lynny
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TBH as far as i know we're in the wrong by the law. as i said, if someone was to leave our pub drunk and put a window out on the shop next door, we'd be to blame, think this works in same way as we let the guy be over the limit....
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mav
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Can't see it TBH
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Lynny
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we hope not!
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Jules S
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it all sound a bit far fetched tbh.
no our cctv tapes have been taken
If that is the case the my best guess is that there is more to it than DD
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Nath
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This would be some sort of landmark case surely? I can't see any sackings coming from this.
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Lynny
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Originally posted by Jules S
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Originally posted by lynny_sxi
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Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
it all sound a bit far fetched tbh.
no our cctv tapes have been taken
If that is the case the my best guess is that there is more to it than DD
we dont know yet, as i said pub manager has been in meetings all day, hes not back in work until tomorrow.
last time out cctv was taken by police was when a huge scottish bloke pulled me over the bar after accusing me of not putting vodka in his drink 
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Lynny
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Originally posted by Nath
This would be some sort of landmark case surely? I can't see any sackings coming from this.
IIRC the Keel row went through something similar over christmas
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Jake
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lynny you're solid.
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Jake
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Nath mate be afraid, be very afraid.
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Lynny
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lynny you're solid.
scuse me?
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Nath
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Nath mate be afraid, be very afraid.
I become afraid when I pass Watford Gap services.....
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Jake
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you're braver than me
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Carr
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I don't get it that surely means that you can only sell anyone on the premises one drink maybe two depending what it was to make sure they didn't go over the limit just incase they decided to drive.
I can understand being responsible if you get some people blind drunk and lairy who g smashing windows but the drink drivin.
CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Lynny
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Originally posted by Carr
I don't get it that surely means that you can only sell anyone on the premises one drink maybe two depending what it was to make sure they didn't go over the limit just incase they decided to drive.
I can understand being responsible if you get some people blind drunk and lairy who g smashing windows but the drink drivin.
CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
tbf its the same thing, just whether they cause the damage with their fists or with a car....
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sriangel
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im sorry how can ur friend be responsible for that guy choosing to drive after drinking yeah she served him but its not down to her how he gets home.
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Eck
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If this is the case then surely if someone bought a litre of vodka from a shop, got wrecked then smashed into a house, the person who sold the drink would be held responsible? I can't see anything coming of this.
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sriangel
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i work in a bar and have never heard something so rediculous there is no way on this earth that any court would try and put the blame of a drink driver ona pub.
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Melville
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What a load of bollocks all this is. Going to jail for selling drink to someone who then goes and drives
What next
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antscorsa
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in that case it seems u have to stop serving sum1 after theyve brought 2 pints cos thats over the limit.
stupid laws!!!!
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Limecat
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LMFAO this would be thrown out in seconds, no way would this get taken to court. Any normal person would make a monkey of the CPS. Your original post states it is because someone was stopped for drink driving, they cannot be held liable for that.
Liability in criminal and civil law require the accused to have caused the result of which the plaintiff complains. They may have served the drink but they did not pour it down their throat, nor did they throw them the keys to their car.
Then you get onto the actus reus (guilty act) and mens rea (guilty mind) of the event and both would have to be present for criminal liability to be proven.
Both of those can very easily be proven for the drink driver though. Guilty act is proven as they have shown as positive. Guilty mind is proven as they have driven.
Further more if this was only a few days back you want to do some digging, sounds like something else has gone on as well. Plus the driver may yet not be prosecuted for drink driving. They get tested at the road side and if they blow in excess of 35mg they will be arrested and taken to the station where they are tested twice on a seperate machine. On the seperate machine you do 2 samples, they take the lower of these 2 as your rating. On the lower of the 2 ratings if you are under 35mg you are released, if it is between 36 and 50mg you are given the option of a blood test, if it is over 51mg then your fucked! Plus with the blood test the parameters change slightly as your are dealing with fluid rather than gas. The blood test must be below 80mg, however the police generally deduct 6mg due to analytical variences.
Hope that helps! 
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ssj_kakarot
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whats the out come of it anyway spoke to your bar manager yet; sure they not pulling your leg lol?
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X 60RSA
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The police force as a whole is pathetic, waste of time, they have no powers to do anything and they often speak to people like they are dirt. My taxes are being wasted!
Bunch of pricks imo!
[Edited on 22-07-2006 by X 60RSA]
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Limecat
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So what happened with this?
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Lynny
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was staff night out last night, member of staff in question is still suspended, had disciplinary with area managers and is kept suspended until police sort it out, thats all we know. our CPS is meeting with police this week
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