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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
We shall see

t really is gonna turn into a precession(sp) if they get Shevchenko as well

Arsenal for Torres though


Torres i rate highly... are you a gunner ? I totally respect their methods of brewing the young... reminds me of the Beckham, Neville & Scholes era !
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Yesh, I would love to see Torres in one way but I can't see us signing him unless Henry goes
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would you swap Torres in exchange for Henry long term in mind?
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Wel I suppose he is only 23 but no, not yet lol
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Yes, Cisse is absolute turd IMO, needs out from the scouse massive >> Ballack... i dunno, i think he will be excellent next season, im very dissapointed United did not land him in January, im a big fan


Cisse has had a great end to the season, and if he had been played in his position (ie not on the wing) and we played to his strengths (ie not high balls and crosses) then we would see the real Cisse. Plus 17 goals in 24 starts is not a bad ratio.

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i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.

Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard

Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack

Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals

Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??


[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]
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Best passer in Premiership (IMO) Dennis Bergkamp

Wel, was
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next season is going to be interesting... and ill be at old traford for every prem game
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quote:
Originally posted by mattwhite
i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.

Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard

Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack

Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals

Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??


[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]


So what if Ballack is 29 years old.....why are people saying hes not that good. Have any of you even watched any of his performances this season?

His performances have been above that of Frank Lampard and he's been on par with Gerrard.



[Edited on 15-05-2006 by Jamescorsa97]
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Neighhhhhhhhhhhh-ever
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
quote:
Originally posted by mattwhite
i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.

Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard

Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack

Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals

Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??


[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]


So what if Ballack is 29 years old.....why are people saying hes not that good. Have any of you even watched any of his performances this season?

His performances have been above that of Frank Lampard and he's been on par with Gerrard.



[Edited on 15-05-2006 by Jamescorsa97]


Ballack is a world class player...but to say he is playing on the same level as Gerrard and Lampard is absolute shite...

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quote:
Originally posted by mattwhite
i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.

Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard

Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack

Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals

Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??


[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]


There cant be a question about who has the best midfield, Alonso, Gerrard and Sissoko easily win that, even in my biased opinion! The new winger we've already signed (Gonzalez) has looked amazing on loan in Spain even though he has only been fit since Feb and is amazingly fast.

I think Rafa will look to sign a right sided player too, possibly someone like Joaquin who has said he wants to come to Liverpool in the past. Or maybe SWP if he does become available (I highly doubt it to us)
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkM
quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
quote:
Originally posted by mattwhite
i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.

Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard

Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack

Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals

Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??


[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]


So what if Ballack is 29 years old.....why are people saying hes not that good. Have any of you even watched any of his performances this season?

His performances have been above that of Frank Lampard and he's been on par with Gerrard.



[Edited on 15-05-2006 by Jamescorsa97]


Ballack is a world class player...but to say he is playing on the same level as Gerrard and Lampard is absolute shite...




I'm taking it you've watched him this season?
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His performances have been above that of Frank Lampard and he's been on par with Gerrard.



Im in tears here over that comment. Not just that Ballack is better than those two, but Lampard is as good as Gerrard. Ballack is the worst of the three.
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Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by mattwhite
i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.

Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard

Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack

Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals

Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??


[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]


There cant be a question about who has the best midfield, Alonso, Gerrard and Sissoko easily win that, even in my biased opinion! The new winger we've already signed (Gonzalez) has looked amazing on loan in Spain even though he has only been fit since Feb and is amazingly fast.

I think Rafa will look to sign a right sided player too, possibly someone like Joaquin who has said he wants to come to Liverpool in the past. Or maybe SWP if he does become available (I highly doubt it to us)


If he can sign Joaquin that would be a hell of a signing!!!

I can see them challenging with him and another striker!
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next season is going to be interesting... and ill be at old traford for every prem game


poor you, what the hell did you do to deserve that?
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tbh, Ballack is on par with Gerrard & Lampard, i just think some of you guys aint been exposed to how good he really is... he is top quality
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Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
next season is going to be interesting... and ill be at old traford for every prem game


poor you, what the hell did you do to deserve that?


780 quid and 160 mile travel, worth every penny, true fan mate
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Originally posted by Sooty
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Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
next season is going to be interesting... and ill be at old traford for every prem game


poor you, what the hell did you do to deserve that?


780 quid and 160 mile travel, worth every penny, true fan mate


your right you are a true fan...you dont live in Manchester!!
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Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
quote:
Originally posted by MarkM
quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
quote:
Originally posted by mattwhite
i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.

Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard

Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack

Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals

Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??


[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]


So what if Ballack is 29 years old.....why are people saying hes not that good. Have any of you even watched any of his performances this season?

His performances have been above that of Frank Lampard and he's been on par with Gerrard.



[Edited on 15-05-2006 by Jamescorsa97]


Ballack is a world class player...but to say he is playing on the same level as Gerrard and Lampard is absolute shite...




I'm taking it you've watched him this season?



Yes I have...I have watched him play several times...in the Bundesliga and Champions league...

He is playing in a league I consider weaker than the premiership...Lampard and Gerrard run every game they play in...
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Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
next season is going to be interesting... and ill be at old traford for every prem game


poor you, what the hell did you do to deserve that?


780 quid and 160 mile travel, worth every penny, true fan mate


your right you are a true fan...you dont live in Manchester!!


typical jibe, which i just take on the chin... got loadsa mates who are fans from Manchester
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Originally posted by Sooty
typical jibe, which i just take on the chin... got loadsa mates who are fans from Manchester


seriously though...were you born there or lived there? Or did you start supporting them during their 'golden era'?
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Originally posted by MarkM
quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
quote:
Originally posted by MarkM
quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
quote:
Originally posted by mattwhite
i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.

Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard

Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack

Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals

Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??


[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]


So what if Ballack is 29 years old.....why are people saying hes not that good. Have any of you even watched any of his performances this season?

His performances have been above that of Frank Lampard and he's been on par with Gerrard.



[Edited on 15-05-2006 by Jamescorsa97]


Ballack is a world class player...but to say he is playing on the same level as Gerrard and Lampard is absolute shite...




I'm taking it you've watched him this season?



Yes I have...I have watched him play several times...in the Bundesliga and Champions league...

He is playing in a league I consider weaker than the premiership...Lampard and Gerrard run every game they play in...


Just wait a season...you will realise he is an excellent player yes...but quite lazy and not in the same league as FL and SG...
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
typical jibe, which i just take on the chin... got loadsa mates who are fans from Manchester


seriously though...were you born there or lived there? Or did you start supporting them during their 'golden era'?


Salford in 1984.... and yes when in 1991 they were crap... watched the younguns come through, and did everything i could to get tickets being from newcastle, do my best to get to every game around work, and recently got my season ticket.... I will happily pay the fuel in my turbo to drive down to see them play IMO i do pretty well !
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkM
quote:
Originally posted by MarkM
quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
quote:
Originally posted by MarkM
quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
quote:
Originally posted by mattwhite
i reckon if Benitez buys a right winger and a 20 - 25 goal a season striker then Liverpool will challenge chelsea all the way next season.

Lampard, Ballack & Makalele against sissoko, Alonso & gerrard

Chelsea
Lampard - good going forward but not backwards, scores alot of goals
Ballack - world class midfielder but 29 years old
Makalele - 30+ very defensive, does not attack

Liverpool
Sissoko - Young, can attack and defend
Alonso - Probably the best passer in the Prem, can attack and defend
Gerrard - enough said, can attack, defend, pass, cross, tackle, motivate and score important goals

Would be a good battle when they play each other, i wonder how many times next season??


[Edited on 15-05-2006 by mattwhite]


So what if Ballack is 29 years old.....why are people saying hes not that good. Have any of you even watched any of his performances this season?

His performances have been above that of Frank Lampard and he's been on par with Gerrard.



[Edited on 15-05-2006 by Jamescorsa97]


Ballack is a world class player...but to say he is playing on the same level as Gerrard and Lampard is absolute shite...




I'm taking it you've watched him this season?



Yes I have...I have watched him play several times...in the Bundesliga and Champions league...

He is playing in a league I consider weaker than the premiership...Lampard and Gerrard run every game they play in...


Just wait a season...you will realise he is an excellent player yes...but quite lazy and not in the same league as FL and SG...


I don;t need to wait a season, I've watched him play most of this season

He scored 16 goals from 37 appearances for BM and 7 goals from 11 internationals in 2005.

I think he's on par with them as he carries his team.

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