Cybermonkey
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Steve, shes a girl what do you expect 
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Ditch
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Jimbo my lost little green budy... I would highly reccomend banging around in a £500 Astra GTE 16v rather than a 4.5k Astra 2.2 16v...
I have proven many a time that old school rules, and will hand the 2.2 its ass on the acceleration front, and will nudge past one quite happily on the motorways...
handling... well they are both poo really.
so there you have it, why spend £4500 when you can spend £500 on a better (IMO  ) car 
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Cybermonkey
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because the 2.2 will be a 100 times more comfortable, wont smell of petrol and wont shatter your ass bones
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K17STY
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Originally posted by Steve
where are people getting this idea that peak torque is like BHP and just vanishes once it hits peak, even if it hits peak at 2k rpm it should hold the same torque at 5k rpm so when it hits peak torque has nothing to do with it
it doesnt vanish but it is pointless staying in the same gear once the peak has been hit as even though your engines working harder the car will not pull any harder
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Steve
where are people getting this idea that peak torque is like BHP and just vanishes once it hits peak, even if it hits peak at 2k rpm it should hold the same torque at 5k rpm so when it hits peak torque has nothing to do with it
it doesnt vanish but it is pointless staying in the same gear once the peak has been hit as even though your engines working harder the car will not pull any harder
peak?? we're not talking about peak FFS. torque is different from power hmmm k. it possible for torque to be a smooth flat line
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Steve
where are people getting this idea that peak torque is like BHP and just vanishes once it hits peak, even if it hits peak at 2k rpm it should hold the same torque at 5k rpm so when it hits peak torque has nothing to do with it
it doesnt vanish but it is pointless staying in the same gear once the peak has been hit as even though your engines working harder the car will not pull any harder
in that case i better start change at 2.3k RPM
dont be silly
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3CorsaMeal
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Originally posted by Ditch
Jimbo my lost little green budy... I would highly reccomend banging around in a £500 Astra GTE 16v rather than a 4.5k Astra 2.2 16v...
I have proven many a time that old school rules, and will hand the 2.2 its ass on the acceleration front, and will nudge past one quite happily on the motorways...
handling... well they are both poo really.
so there you have it, why spend £4500 when you can spend £500 on a better (IMO ) car
i know i could get some kinda of old banger, but i want some a little refined etc, so pissed off at wobbling around corners and jumping over bumps in the corsa
think i already been put off the astra sri  too gay
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Ditch
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
because the 2.2 will be a 100 times more comfortable, wont smell of petrol and wont shatter your ass bones
FPMSL
although the ass bone comment is untrue.. my GTE 16v wibbled like Jelly on a plate... ahh how I miss it!
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Martin_C
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
Steve, shes a girl what do you expect
i suspect its stu,,,
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K17STY
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i suggest you read up on how combustion engines work,they all have peak torque
im away now as unlike stuarty i dont like to argue 
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Steve
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Originally posted by K17STY
i suggest you read up on how combustion engines work,they all have peak torque
im away now as unlike stuarty i dont like to argue
thanks for the advice, but i suggest you take some of your own
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K17STY
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Originally posted by Martin_C
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
Steve, shes a girl what do you expect
i suspect its stu,,,
you suspect wrong fannyballs 
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Ditch
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
i know i could get some kinda of old banger, but i want some a little refined etc, so pissed off at wobbling around corners and jumping over bumps in the corsa
think i already been put off the astra sri too gay
stop being a Fag and buy an S14a 200sx
you wont regret it (apart from fuel bills...)
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Martin_C
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Martin_C
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
Steve, shes a girl what do you expect
i suspect its stu,,,
you suspect wrong fannyballs
stu does the ,,, bit, just a guess,
and gtf, thank you please.
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by K17STY
i suggest you read up on how combustion engines work,they all have peak torque
im away now as unlike stuarty i dont like to argue
yes peak torque, but on a decent engine, torque of over 90% the peak can be carried over for perhaps a 3000rpm rev range
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K17STY
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Steve
where are people getting this idea that peak torque is like BHP and just vanishes once it hits peak, even if it hits peak at 2k rpm it should hold the same torque at 5k rpm so when it hits peak torque has nothing to do with it
it doesnt vanish but it is pointless staying in the same gear once the peak has been hit as even though your engines working harder the car will not pull any harder
in that case i better start change at 2.3k RPM
dont be silly
im betting you have a diesel,, and you may change where you want as its your car
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3CorsaMeal
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Originally posted by Ditch
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
i know i could get some kinda of old banger, but i want some a little refined etc, so pissed off at wobbling around corners and jumping over bumps in the corsa
think i already been put off the astra sri too gay
stop being a Fag and buy an S14a 200sx
you wont regret it (apart from fuel bills...)
looked at one, but its too big, i'd be dead within the week
i'm a backroad barry
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Steve
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peak torque doesnt mean peak then drop it means the highest value, which could be made at 2000 rpm and still be the same at 6000 rpm you will be doing a stupid thing by changing right at the point where peak torque is made, your better holding it until peak bhp as at that point on a decent engine torque will still be at its highest and bhp will be at its peak
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K17STY
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by K17STY
i suggest you read up on how combustion engines work,they all have peak torque
im away now as unlike stuarty i dont like to argue
thanks for the advice, but i suggest you take some of your own
i remember a big post up on the ftooc where it explains torque but couldnt find it  so i done a google search for you,not quite the same as its american but you will get the drift http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html
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Ditch
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I doubt I would last long in one on a twisty B road... would start thinking I was clever and end up in a field!
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Steve
where are people getting this idea that peak torque is like BHP and just vanishes once it hits peak, even if it hits peak at 2k rpm it should hold the same torque at 5k rpm so when it hits peak torque has nothing to do with it
it doesnt vanish but it is pointless staying in the same gear once the peak has been hit as even though your engines working harder the car will not pull any harder
in that case i better start change at 2.3k RPM
dont be silly
im betting you have a diesel,, and you may change where you want as its your car
you could not be more wrong (i do not have a diesal) and the very fact you assume i have clearly shows your lack of knowledge
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K17STY
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quote:
Originally posted by Martin_C
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Martin_C
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey
Steve, shes a girl what do you expect
i suspect its stu,,,
you suspect wrong fannyballs
stu does the ,,, bit, just a guess,
and gtf, thank you please.
i know i do ... but i think im getting turned
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Cybermonkey
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Steve
where are people getting this idea that peak torque is like BHP and just vanishes once it hits peak, even if it hits peak at 2k rpm it should hold the same torque at 5k rpm so when it hits peak torque has nothing to do with it
it doesnt vanish but it is pointless staying in the same gear once the peak has been hit as even though your engines working harder the car will not pull any harder
in that case i better start change at 2.3k RPM
dont be silly
im betting you have a diesel,, and you may change where you want as its your car
you could not be more wrong (i do not have a diesal) and the very fact you assume i have clearly shows your lack of knowledge
and lack of eyesight
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K17STY
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by K17STY
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Originally posted by Steve
where are people getting this idea that peak torque is like BHP and just vanishes once it hits peak, even if it hits peak at 2k rpm it should hold the same torque at 5k rpm so when it hits peak torque has nothing to do with it
it doesnt vanish but it is pointless staying in the same gear once the peak has been hit as even though your engines working harder the car will not pull any harder
in that case i better start change at 2.3k RPM
dont be silly
im betting you have a diesel,, and you may change where you want as its your car
you could not be more wrong (i do not have a diesal) and the very fact you assume i have clearly shows your lack of knowledge
well you have a peak of under 3000rpm and this is similar to diesels is it not??
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by K17STY
well you have a peak of under 3000rpm and this is similar to diesels is it not??
have you not read a single word we have written for you??? seriously, re-read it all and try and make sense of it.
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