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loo_goblin
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how does the shortist player on the pitch score 2 headers???

only saw last 3 goals, was playing hockey a real sport, i got the astro burns to prove it
J da Silva
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quote:
Originally posted by loo_goblin
how does the shortist player on the pitch score 2 headers???

only saw last 3 goals, was playing hockey a real sport, i got the astro burns to prove it


By forcing his head onto the ball, in a goalward bound direction, beating the keeper and the ball landing in the back of the goal.

I ought to teach!
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The players that stood out for England IMO were Joe Cole, Rooney and Gerrard, I think all the rest were a waste of time.

Joe Cole reminds me of Gazza in his prime, Cole can only get better with regular football.
Nath
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Roll on the World Cup
missK69
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england to win!!
Danny P
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Originally posted by cossie_corsa
did anyone feel gutted for crouch when owen jumped into him , headered the ball in and left crouch with his face in the turf while he ran off and celebrated??


Not at all.

Fair enough we did well to pull it back yesterday and the Argies had a full team out BUT its only one game and i for one am not going to get carried away with the win. It was only a few months ago that we were destined by some people not to even qualify for the World Cup, with a clueless manager who everyone wanted sacking, let alone winning the thing. people in this Country are too quick to change their opinion, and build their hopes up too easily, then are too quick to criticise when it all fucks up.

We set a good platform yesterday and it gave us something to build on in up and coming games, if Sven can resist making stupid changes just for the sake of it and get everyone playing as a team then i do belive we have a good chance of doing very well in Germany. The only thing that worries me slightly is the lack of strengh/experience in the Squad. Personally i think if we lose few key players we dont have the class to bring in like the Brazillains or the Argies, lets hope that doesnt happen and we can bring the World Cup home!
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england look as if they can win the world cup


im scared
Nath
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Originally posted by gianluigi
england look as if they can win the world cup


im scared


your boys did well too dont forget.
gianluigi
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yes we did, we beat holland, a quality team, 3-1. looks like we have 2 new promising strikers to take to germany, in Luca Toni (as tall as peter crouch but a little more potant ) and Alberto Gilardino, quality striker.
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More potent than Crouch Nooo!

Paul Robinson is more potent in front of goal than Crouch

Gilardino, is that the lad AC bought from Parma?
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i think claud makelele, with all the hype about him having no balls infront of goal is more potant than crouch!

yes this is the lad that AC bought from parma, he was top scorer in serie A with 24/25 odd goals past 2 seasons, and he's banged in a few for club and country this year. he was also very highly regarded at u21 level.
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
quote:
Originally posted by cossie_corsa
did anyone feel gutted for crouch when owen jumped into him , headered the ball in and left crouch with his face in the turf while he ran off and celebrated??


Not at all.

Fair enough we did well to pull it back yesterday and the Argies had a full team out BUT its only one game and i for one am not going to get carried away with the win. It was only a few months ago that we were destined by some people not to even qualify for the World Cup, with a clueless manager who everyone wanted sacking, let alone winning the thing. people in this Country are too quick to change their opinion, and build their hopes up too easily, then are too quick to criticise when it all fucks up.

We set a good platform yesterday and it gave us something to build on in up and coming games, if Sven can resist making stupid changes just for the sake of it and get everyone playing as a team then i do belive we have a good chance of doing very well in Germany. The only thing that worries me slightly is the lack of strengh/experience in the Squad. Personally i think if we lose few key players we dont have the class to bring in like the Brazillains or the Argies, lets hope that doesnt happen and we can bring the World Cup home!
u cud say the same thing about most intl teams incl argentina and brazil... every team needs their best players
Nath
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I dont see why people can't get a little excited after beating the Argies. No denying we are one of the 5/6 teams that can win the World Cup, beating them only cements that claim further. So what we lost to N.Ireland and Denmark. Not much else to moan about imo. Topped our group didn't we?
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for good measure, the fifa rankings

Rank Team +/-Rank
Sep 05 Pts:
Oct 05 +/-Pts:
Sep 05
1 Brazil 0 840 1
2 Netherlands 0 797 12
3 Czech Republic 1 783 6
4 Argentina -1 778 0
5 France 1 776 6
6 Mexico -1 769 -2
7 USA 0 768 0
8 Spain 0 764 14
9 England 2 754 16
9 Portugal 0 754 11
11 Turkey 1 743 12
12 Italy 1 736 11
13 Sweden -3 733 -7
14 Denmark 0 730 9
15 Germany 0 712 -6
16 Japan 0 711 -5
17 Uruguay 8 709 29
18 Greece 2 706 7
19 Croatia 5 702 16
20 Costa Rica -1 700 0


i wish to hear no hype about italy before the world cup....i am already preparing myself for disappointment
Nath
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I'm sorry but those Rankings are bollocks.

Italy are clearly better than Turkey, USA, Mexico etc.....

England are clearly better than USA, Mexico, Netherlands etc....

[Edited on 13-11-2005 by Nath]
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
I dont see why people can't get a little excited after beating the Argies. No denying we are one of the 5/6 teams that can win the World Cup, beating them only cements that claim further. So what we lost to N.Ireland and Denmark. Not much else to moan about imo. Topped our group didn't we?
Yeah, exactly dude... jus because we always cock it up one or another ( )

Noone can take away the fact that we have one of the best (if not the best bar Brazil) squads... with no injuries and a little luck... we CAN (not saying we will by any measure) but we can go an win this thing
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Originally posted by Nath
I'm sorry but those Rankings are bollocks.

Italy are clearly better than Turkey, USA, Mexico etc.....

England are clearly better than USA, Mexico, Netherlands etc....

[Edited on 13-11-2005 by Nath]
Was jus gonna say, the fifa rankings are about as subjective as that claim that liverpool were somehow the best club side last year
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Originally posted by Robbo
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
I'm sorry but those Rankings are bollocks.

Italy are clearly better than Turkey, USA, Mexico etc.....

England are clearly better than USA, Mexico, Netherlands etc....

[Edited on 13-11-2005 by Nath]
Was jus gonna say, the fifa rankings are about as subjective as that claim that liverpool were somehow the best club side last year


Indeed!
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The rankings are also biased toward thos ewho play more matches hence why USA are quite high up... they play a fgair few qual matches an friendlies etc :S
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
I dont see why people can't get a little excited after beating the Argies. No denying we are one of the 5/6 teams that can win the World Cup, beating them only cements that claim further. So what we lost to N.Ireland and Denmark. Not much else to moan about imo. Topped our group didn't we?
Yeah, exactly dude... jus because we always cock it up one or another ( )

Noone can take away the fact that we have one of the best (if not the best bar Brazil) squads... with no injuries and a little luck... we CAN (not saying we will by any measure) but we can go an win this thing


Exactly. I'm not saying we will win it but we CAN win it. There are 5/6 very very good teams that could win the World Cup, no reason why we can't.
Danny P
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
I dont see why people can't get a little excited after beating the Argies. No denying we are one of the 5/6 teams that can win the World Cup, beating them only cements that claim further. So what we lost to N.Ireland and Denmark. Not much else to moan about imo. Topped our group didn't we?


I agree that by beating the Argies that it does cement our claim that we can win the world cup, im not dening that we cant, i think we have the best chance we have had in years, but like you've said, there is another 4/5 teams that also have an equally good chance of winning it. All im saying is that i hope the English media/supporters dont built it up too much only to be slaugheted if we dont bring the trophey home. Go back a few months and read some of the comments made after the Denmark and NI games and you'll see what i mean. 90& of English fas wanted Sven out and we had no chace, now everyone's talking like our name is already engraved on the World Cup.

Yes, we did top our group mate, but IMO it was a very poor group, with only Poland that was ever really going to threaten us to top spot.

Im not trying to be negative, i'll be in Germany getting behinf the boys 100% as i always do, all im saying is dont read too much into one result
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indeed Hell, if that German side reached the worlkd cup final then we shud be able to (altho in honesty Germany just benefited from all the top nations who didnt reach the knockout phase (Argies, France etc))
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
I dont see why people can't get a little excited after beating the Argies. No denying we are one of the 5/6 teams that can win the World Cup, beating them only cements that claim further. So what we lost to N.Ireland and Denmark. Not much else to moan about imo. Topped our group didn't we?


I agree that by beating the Argies that it does cement our claim that we can win the world cup, im not dening that we cant, i think we have the best chance we have had in years, but like you've said, there is another 4/5 teams that also have an equally good chance of winning it. All im saying is that i hope the English media/supporters dont built it up too much only to be slaugheted if we dont bring the trophey home. Go back a few months and read some of the comments made after the Denmark and NI games and you'll see what i mean. 90& of English fas wanted Sven out and we had no chace, now everyone's talking like our name is already engraved on the World Cup.

Yes, we did top our group mate, but IMO it was a very poor group, with only Poland that was ever really going to threaten us to top spot.

Im not trying to be negative, i'll be in Germany getting behinf the boys 100% as i always do, all im saying is dont read too much into one result
TBH mate I still dont think Sven is the right man for the job but he'll hav to do for the time being...
Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
I dont see why people can't get a little excited after beating the Argies. No denying we are one of the 5/6 teams that can win the World Cup, beating them only cements that claim further. So what we lost to N.Ireland and Denmark. Not much else to moan about imo. Topped our group didn't we?


I agree that by beating the Argies that it does cement our claim that we can win the world cup, im not dening that we cant, i think we have the best chance we have had in years, but like you've said, there is another 4/5 teams that also have an equally good chance of winning it. All im saying is that i hope the English media/supporters dont built it up too much only to be slaugheted if we dont bring the trophey home. Go back a few months and read some of the comments made after the Denmark and NI games and you'll see what i mean. 90& of English fas wanted Sven out and we had no chace, now everyone's talking like our name is already engraved on the World Cup.

Yes, we did top our group mate, but IMO it was a very poor group, with only Poland that was ever really going to threaten us to top spot.

Im not trying to be negative, i'll be in Germany getting behinf the boys 100% as i always do, all im saying is dont read too much into one result


I agree. But then again i'm more optomist then pessimist. Thats what comes of being a Luton fan
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HOW THE FCUKING HELL ARE USA ABOVE ENGLAND IN FIFA RANKINGS, THIS IS A FCUKING OUTRAGE.

WHAT FCUKING IDIOT PUT THIS TOGETHER?

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