Katie
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My comment wasn't nasty Ian, i was just saying what i thought. Just because Karen spends money on what she does, doesn't make it right or wrong. I just found ally's comment " Unless daddyo saves more for him" below the belt. He should pay for him, he left her on her own with his son.
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Katie
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Originally posted by Dan B
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Originally posted by Katie...When your a single parent and your bloke leaves you, your self esteem probably hits rock bottom...
Aha, another chance to use this image:
No sympathy whatsoever......if you're not 100% secure in a relationship, don't have kids......simple as! 
My mum was married for 25 years, but my dad was nasty and aggresive, so she is now a single parent who raised me and my brother. When she had me and my brother, she didn't knw the marraige would fail. You can't see into the future.
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Ian
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Relationships do fail, Dan, no one is disputing that.
From a strictly financial perspective:
Monthly payment £20
Duration 18 years
Interest rate 4% (higher would not be unusual at the current time)
Result £6401.10
Monthly payment £98
Duration 18 years
Interest rate 4%
Result £31365.37
31 grand when he turns 21, or 6 grand with the current arrangement. The tan and nails will cost the kid 24 grand.
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Ian
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Originally posted by Katie
He should pay for him
I agree entirely, and I hope he is doing. I just don't know if at present, more could be done.
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Katie
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I am not disputing what your saying Ian, there is just know need for everyone to be spiteful to somone. I don't even know karen, i just don't like reading peoples comments towards her sometimes, it's like evryone gangs up on her.
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Ian
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Maybe they all pay tax and want the kid to do well...
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Katie
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I don't pay much as i am still at college, but i pay tax as i have two jobs, but i still feel sorry for the way people talk to her sometimes, and i am sure her kid will do well. i am not trying to turn this into an argument, i just felt sorry for her that's all.
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Originally posted by Bennn
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Originally posted by Ian
£78 per month on nails and a tan and £20 for the kids future.  OMFG.
"His futures shi_te, her futures orange"
shouldnt it be that instead
[Edited on 05-11-2005 by ljames555]
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Charlene
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I can see your points katie and i thought it was abit shan on all this but when you read some things she says she puts her self in it and makes her seem like she doesnt pay anything for her son etc
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Katie
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I understand charlene, everyone has an oppinion and i can see why what she put might annoy people, i just think when everyone makes the same point over and over again, it starts getting a bit nasty. You only need to make a point once.
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Danny P
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IMO its her kid, and she can do what she see's best for her kid.
However, i do feel that for someone who doesn't work, and relies on benefits for money, spending £30 a month on "grooming" products is just taking the piss out the people who work, and sometimes cant afford such luxies, who are paying to tax to be paid out in benefits is a bit of a pisstake and can see why people get pissed off about it,
IMO all benefits should be banned, or, you have have to have paid a certain amount of money into the pot so to speak, before you can start drawing out
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Ally
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Lets not turn this thread into a bitching thread.
Most people have gathered what i think, Danny i do agree with you thou, but this is the net and you dont know what has happened in real life.
However saving £5 a week for your kid, yet £80 on stuff you dont need seems abit unfair on the kid. I'm not saying as a woman you shouldn't have your treats however i would rather spend £80 a month on saving for my son, and £20 on myself, than the other way round.
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Katie
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Sorry, i got the impression from some people's posts that it was already a bitching thread, which is why it annoyed me. I also think that maybe she shouldn't spend so much on luxuries, but nobody can stop what she is doing by being mean to her.
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Ally
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Originally posted by Katie
Sorry, i got the impression from some people's posts that it was already a bitching thread, which is why it annoyed me. I also think that maybe she shouldn't spend so much on luxuries, but nobody can stop what she is doing by being mean to her.
Not but they can give their opinions.
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Katie
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... In a nicer way.
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Ally
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Originally posted by Katie
I just found ally's comment " Unless daddyo saves more for him" below the belt. He should pay for him, he left her on her own with his son.
And this is 'below the belt' because?
I was stating that Karen may not need to save for her son if the father is already saving a fair amount for him.
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Danny P
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Danny i do agree with you thou, but this is the net and you dont know what has happened in real life.
Yeah i agree with that, i dont know why she is in the situation shes in, and thats got nothing to do with me.
It just anoys me personally how someone who gets a free house or whatever of the government can afford to buy luxuires that add up to that amount each month, when they have done nothing to earn that money, and its efectivley been paid for by people like me who go out to work.
Tat goes for everyone out there on benefits, not just Karen.
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Katie
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Originally posted by Ally
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Originally posted by Katie
I just found ally's comment " Unless daddyo saves more for him" below the belt. He should pay for him, he left her on her own with his son.
And this is 'below the belt' because?
I was stating that Karen may not need to save for her son if the father is already saving a fair amount for him.
If i have read it wrong then i am sorry. i just read it as if you were saying that the dad that left his son, is better than karen by paying more money for him.
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Katie
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Originally posted by Danny P
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Originally posted by Ally
Danny i do agree with you thou, but this is the net and you dont know what has happened in real life.
Yeah i agree with that, i dont know why she is in the situation shes in, and thats got nothing to do with me.
It just anoys me personally how someone who gets a free house or whatever of the government can afford to buy luxuires that add up to that amount each month, when they have done nothing to earn that money, and its efectivley been paid for by people like me who go out to work.
Tat goes for everyone out there on benefits, not just Karen.
What about the single parent families who work but still need certain benefits to get by? You don't know what your talking about.
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Ally
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Originally posted by Katie
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Originally posted by Ally
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Originally posted by Katie
I just found ally's comment " Unless daddyo saves more for him" below the belt. He should pay for him, he left her on her own with his son.
And this is 'below the belt' because?
I was stating that Karen may not need to save for her son if the father is already saving a fair amount for him.
If i have read it wrong then i am sorry. i just read it as if you were saying that the dad that left his son, is better than karen by paying more money for him.
No, i am saying that Karen may only save £20 a month because the father of her child also saves for him, and saves more therefore allowing Karen to spend money on herself.
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Katie
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Then i read it wrong and i apologise.
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My monthly outgoings:
£160 - credit cards
£480 - loans
£20 - mobile bill
£70 - car insurance
£250 - petrol
Just under a grand!
On the plus side, I live at home and don't have to pay for rent or food!
Hopefully I will be paying out significantly less by the beginning of next years due to one or two changes in circumstances! 
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Ally
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Originally posted by Katie
What about the single parent families who work but still need certain benefits to get by? You don't know what your talking about.
I think he is on about people who baltently could go out and work if they wanted too, yet they choose to take benefits instead of working.
EG - I am 19, looking to buy my first house soon, need 4k for a deposit, 1k for legal fees/survey, then need to be earning a minimium of 900 a month to survive...
HOWEVER
If i got myself pregnant ... the council would give me a place for little or no money AND they would pay me to live there! and if i kept having children, i would get an even bigger place.
katie i think you are on about single mums who work and get their child benefit? which most mums are entitled too, yes i agree with child benefit seeing as we all pay so much tax its nice to have some support back.
However i do not agree with girls who have a kid, dont work (even thou they could) yet choose to get benefits instead of making somthing of themselves.
Karen - i am not slagging you off or saying you are wrong in what you do, because i know how hard it is being a mum. I am saying i do not think saving £20 for your son, yet spending £80 on stuff for yourself is a good idea, however you do what you want, your life, your money and you are entitled to live your life however you choose too.
Anyway i am off to watch the fireworks  i hope ive made paul j proud
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Katie
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Same here, but i never said i agreed with what karen spends her money on and not working, just wish people would be more tactful. it may be the internet, but peope can still have their feelings hurt by it.
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Ally
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True, however i can't see that ever happening on here
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