Robbo
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jr
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 Nitros is going to be silly
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jr
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rob the bets discription of jims car is willays quote after going out in it
"its like a fat bird on a skateboard"
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SVM 286
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rob the bets discription of jims car is willays quote after going out in it
"its like a fat bird on a skateboard"
Still not sure what to make of that one as to whether it is an insult or not - Wil can be so cryptic.
Got my licence back today - 3 points heavier  and my wallet's 60 quid lighter
Better stop speeding now...
...ha...
,,,fat chance!
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Robbo
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Fat bird on a skateboard LMAO!
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Chris S
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Originally posted by SVM 286
14.8 is incredibly good for one of those at the Pod.
The place is surfaced with custard and you cannot get off the line without spinning or bogging down.
Mine spins all the way through 1st and 2nd and is completely hopeless up there due to the lack of adhesion, so for a similar car to get times under 15 seconds is very good.
If it were a 1/2 mile course like the Brighton Speed Trials, it would be a different story and the terminal speed would be monstrous as these cars come into their own on fast roads in 3rd gear upwards.
u taking the mick mate, santa pod is sticky as fuk
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by SVM 286
14.8 is incredibly good for one of those at the Pod.
The place is surfaced with custard and you cannot get off the line without spinning or bogging down.
Mine spins all the way through 1st and 2nd and is completely hopeless up there due to the lack of adhesion, so for a similar car to get times under 15 seconds is very good.
If it were a 1/2 mile course like the Brighton Speed Trials, it would be a different story and the terminal speed would be monstrous as these cars come into their own on fast roads in 3rd gear upwards.
u taking the mick mate, santa pod is sticky as fuk
 Er no - I must not have been clear enough in my previous statement.
I'd hate to have to drive on whatever your idea of slippery is if you think the start line at Santa Pod is sticky.
My RS spins through 1st and 2nd no matter how you approach it and my MG lit the tyres all the way through 1st when I got too enthusiastic on my second run, even after an extended burnout.
Not what i'd call sticky, but then you may well be a far superior driver to me and or have a car with infinitely more grip, or perhaps even traction/launch control.
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Ditch
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Pod is super sticky IMO...
I have seen high power FWD cars on road tyres snap driveshafts when launching hard at pod...
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Chris S
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Originally posted by SVM 286
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Originally posted by Chris S
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Originally posted by SVM 286
14.8 is incredibly good for one of those at the Pod.
The place is surfaced with custard and you cannot get off the line without spinning or bogging down.
Mine spins all the way through 1st and 2nd and is completely hopeless up there due to the lack of adhesion, so for a similar car to get times under 15 seconds is very good.
If it were a 1/2 mile course like the Brighton Speed Trials, it would be a different story and the terminal speed would be monstrous as these cars come into their own on fast roads in 3rd gear upwards.
u taking the mick mate, santa pod is sticky as fuk
Er no - I must not have been clear enough in my previous statement.
I'd hate to have to drive on whatever your idea of slippery is if you think the start line at Santa Pod is sticky.
My RS spins through 1st and 2nd no matter how you approach it and my MG lit the tyres all the way through 1st when I got too enthusiastic on my second run, even after an extended burnout.
Not what i'd call sticky, but then you may well be a far superior driver to me and or have a car with infinitely more grip, or perhaps even traction/launch control.
u cant just rev it and let the clutch up and expect it to grip i wouldnt say i was a superior driver to u mate, its just common sence using high powered fwd cars, my cars is over 330 bhp in FWD and does a 2.028 60ft time and a 12.3 qtr on yoko a539's, easily acchevieble in any car
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timrud_
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I'll back Chris_S up, I've seen him try to park, so more complicated things like a launch at the Pod are a tad difficult for him too  
Launching in second can be a good way round it.
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Chris S
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naah cant park, especially with a LET, ^ speed box and a quick rack, with 205 tyres that are bold it heavy! especially we no GIRLY power steering!
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Chris S
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thats a front wheel drive turbod car on Santa pods so called slippy surface with road tyres,
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SVM 286
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quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
Pod is super sticky IMO...
I have seen high power FWD cars on road tyres snap driveshafts when launching hard at pod...
Very surprising, all I got was wheelspin.
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SVM 286
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u cant just rev it and let the clutch up and expect it to grip i wouldnt say i was a superior driver to u mate, its just common sence using high powered fwd cars, my cars is over 330 bhp in FWD and does a 2.028 60ft time and a 12.3 qtr on yoko a539's, easily acchevieble in any car
Despite popular belief, I do posses some semblance of common sense.
I do have a grasp of physics and I do know how to operate a motor vehicle.
I have been driving for 17 years.
I have been diagnosing and repairing faults on cars for 15 years.
I have been driving my RS for five years, and despite it's obviously paltry and mediocre 260ish horsepower, and the fact that it is also fitted with Yokohamas, it is still a handfull and does not like getting off the line at Santa Pod.
If 12.3 second 1/4 mile times were easily achievable in any car, then any and every car would be doing just that.
The first time a 400+ bhp Cosworth Sierra broke the 13 second barrier and cracked a 12.99 people cheered in amazement.
Physical factors including power and torque delivery preclude certain cars from performing good standing quarter times while shining in other areas.
Whilst your car may well have achieved such times (I am shocked to hear of it though), you must surely understand that it is much harder for other vehicles with similar power to do the same.
I do not simply rev my engine and drop the clutch, this would definitely do nothing but produce wheelspin and more than likely a broken gearbox.
I have tried pulling away gently off boost and feeding it in.
I have tried slipping the clutch.
I have tried early changing.
- all to no avail, even if I retard 1st gear wheelspin, the car still spins from 3000 rpm upwards in 2nd and if I back off at all the run is just as poor as the car loses all momentum.
It is simply better to pulse the throttle in 2nd and get through it as best as possible.
Hence my saving for Hooziers and a N2O install - the tyres will be an attempt to improve starting and the nitrous will be for 3rd gear (wheelspin safe territory) in order to increase my speed over the line and shorten the time it takes to get there
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SVM 286
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thats a front wheel drive turbod car on Santa pods so called slippy surface with road tyres,
Was only speaking from personal experience.
Took a FWD turbo car up there in April/May on a dry day and had nothing but wheelspin.
A group of large scary asian gentlemen from the Midlands with similar cars had similar problems and forewarned me that the surface was 'rotten' (their words not mine).
Took a normaly aspirated RWD car up there on a nice day in October and was dissapointed to find how gently I still had to pull away in order to restrain 1st gear wheelspin - 2nd was fine.
JR informed me today that you have a boost cut in 1st - that must be very usefull for getting good starts.
Do you only use it in 1st and is it adjustable?
He also told me your car was a Nova - hardly a surprise that once you get going you're pulling in good times with a modified 2.0L 16V turbo engine in something that weighs less than a hamsters bowel movement.
I should think my car weighs 7 or 8 tons more than yours and has half as many valves and few hundred cc missing.
So trying to pull all that mass off the line through the wrong wheels and then hurtle it up a quarter in a respectable time is understandably a problem.
She makes up for it out on the open road in 3rd gear and above, and on the twisty stuff though
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lee mitchell
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Originally posted by SVM 286
I should think my car weighs 7 or 8 tons more than yours and has half as many valves and few hundred cc missing.
i thought u owned an escort not a fucking tank i know ur a big guy but not that big
[Edited on 24-10-2005 by lee mitchell]
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Chris S
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quote:
Originally posted by SVM 286
thats a front wheel drive turbod car on Santa pods so called slippy surface with road tyres,
Was only speaking from personal experience.
Took a FWD turbo car up there in April/May on a dry day and had nothing but wheelspin.
A group of large scary asian gentlemen from the Midlands with similar cars had similar problems and forewarned me that the surface was 'rotten' (their words not mine).
Took a normaly aspirated RWD car up there on a nice day in October and was dissapointed to find how gently I still had to pull away in order to restrain 1st gear wheelspin - 2nd was fine.
JR informed me today that you have a boost cut in 1st - that must be very usefull for getting good starts.
Do you only use it in 1st and is it adjustable?
He also told me your car was a Nova - hardly a surprise that once you get going you're pulling in good times with a modified 2.0L 16V turbo engine in something that weighs less than a hamsters bowel movement.
I should think my car weighs 7 or 8 tons more than yours and has half as many valves and few hundred cc missing.
So trying to pull all that mass off the line through the wrong wheels and then hurtle it up a quarter in a respectable time is understandably a problem.
She makes up for it out on the open road in 3rd gear and above, and on the twisty stuff though
I have no boost cut in any gears on my car, as standard they do yes, but not with a superchipped ecu. my car running 14psi is roughly 260bhp and that did a 12.9
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SVM 286
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quote:
Originally posted by lee mitchell
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Originally posted by SVM 286
I should think my car weighs 7 or 8 tons more than yours and has half as many valves and few hundred cc missing.
i thought u owned an escort not a fucking tank i know ur a big guy but not that big
[Edited on 24-10-2005 by lee mitchell]
I've had to push the old girl a couple of times Lee. I think she's made of lead and girders. 
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SVM 286
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I have no boost cut in any gears on my car, as standard they do yes, but not with a superchipped ecu. my car running 14psi is roughly 260bhp and that did a 12.9
Interesting.
Would love to see her run.
Do you use tyre softener or run particularly low pressures?
Would be fascinated to know how she hooks up so well.
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Chris S
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nope, let tyres down abit, it gets used and abused everyday, drove to and from the drag strip so no time for any tyre softener
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SVM 286
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When you running her next Chris?
Won't have my shed out for ages unfortunately.
It's going to take me till May to save for the Quaife rebuild. I shall fit a Pace rad at the same time and then the nitrous install in the summer with any luck.
[Edited on 24-10-2005 by SVM 286]
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lee mitchell
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quote:
Originally posted by SVM 286
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Originally posted by lee mitchell
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Originally posted by SVM 286
I should think my car weighs 7 or 8 tons more than yours and has half as many valves and few hundred cc missing.
i thought u owned an escort not a fucking tank i know ur a big guy but not that big
[Edited on 24-10-2005 by lee mitchell]
I've had to push the old girl a couple of times Lee. I think she's made of lead and girders.
its probably all that filler and fibreglass.
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jr
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That kingdom front bumpers he's put on does weigh a shit load
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timrud_
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I'll vouch for it getting used and abused everyday
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Chris S
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Originally posted by timrud_
I'll vouch for it getting used and abused everyday
its wot boost and amy g live for
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