Shelly
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Yes and I told you I know about it.
It's called sectarianism.
I'm only a Rangers fan for the football, but I understand there are some who have a passion for the bad stuff more than the football. I am not one.
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Eck
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I'm actually getting fed up of the excuses really. There were muppets, wearing Rangers tops, trashing another town, after a Rangers defeat...It's black and white really. If my tv broke down, I wouldn't go and trash the shop I bought it from!
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by some deluded rangers fan
He was just a spurs fan having a fag, wouldn't hurt a fly.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/05/17/convicted-killer-s-role-in-uefa-cup-riot-86908-20420166/
That'll be why he was a heroin addict convicted of murder 
[Edited on 17-05-2008 by John]
Spurs fan mate.
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Nath
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Fucking dirty Yids. It's all down to religion IMO.
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jr
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Should be banned from any further european games, for years
dont care what people think, anyone involved is a CUNT, who has made you and your club (who i also have no respect for now) look like the worst losers ever
must remember when i get beaten by a average russian team, to smash the place up
[Edited on 17-05-2008 by jr]
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Colin
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Yeah jr thats what should be done. If thats the way the FA/uefa handled the actions of a minority of fans then England national team would never have seen a competition this side of 2000!
[Edited on 17-05-2008 by Colin]
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jr
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Happend in 1986, why not again
ive now watched and heard enough to know it wasnt 1 or 2 kicking off, it was fucking hundreads if not thousands
that is not a minority
read this, as its the event log from the evening, i would say it was more than 1 or 2, as there all at diffrent stations
EVENTS
Date Time Co Description
14/05 2200 NR Call received from the TPE station staff at Manchester Piccadilly advising that football supporters are walking on the track on platforms 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14, train running stopped, BTP are in attendance, but the large volume of passengers is growing.
14/05 2210 NR TPE Radio conversations confirm the passenger volumes are un-manageable, TPE staff have withdrawn from the platforms, all passengers are now clear of the lines, but there is no train dispatch staff.
14/05 2220 NR Call received from the Network Rail Station Manager, at Manchester Piccadilly advises that preparations are underway to evacuate Manchester Piccadilly, due the volume of passenger and the unsafe conditions.
14/05 2241 NR Station Manager at Manchester Piccadilly advises that Manchester Piccadilly is now closed due to disorder.
14/05 2242 NR Station Manager at Manchester Piccadilly advises Platform 13 & 14 are now closed due to disorder, Station staff have withdrawn from the platform.
14/05 2245 NR BT Police Control Sergeant informed of events and that the station staff are afraid to leave their office, will arrange for officers to accompany the station staff to despatch trains they also reported that GM Police are sending a Tactical Support Group to the station to assist BT Police in gaining control.
14/05 2254 NR Station Manager at Manchester Piccadilly advises Platforms 1 TO 9 are now open
14/05 2258 NR Report received from the Conductor on 1N70 21:47hrs Manchester Airport to Blackpool North advising that when he passed through Deansgate Station, he heard a thud on the side of the unit, and he thought someone had fell between the train and the platform. MPSCC advised and they utilised 2H90 21:36hrs Clitheroe to Buxton to examine the line.
BTP advised, log reference 738
14/05 2303 NR Route Control Manager advises that the Driver of 2H90 has reported the line all clear, nothing seen. BTP updated.
14/05 2304 NR Northern Trains Station Manager contacted and informs that the BT Poice have just arrived to accompany the station staff on their duties, also reported that several members of Northern Trains station staff have been assaulted. TPE Control Manager also reports that they have had their Operations Manager assaulted on the platform. Network Rail station manager informs no reported injuries to Network Rail employee's.
14/05 2307 NR MPSCC advises that train running has resumed on Platform 14.
14/05 2311 NR MPSCC advises that Platforms 9 to 14 are blocked again, passengers are running lineside.
14/05 2327 NR MPSCC advises that Platforms 13 and 14 are now open, they still have a few passengers trespassers on the remaining platforms / track.
14/05 2329 NR Manchester Piccadilly now fully operational, services still being delayed due to volume of passengers and difficulties dispatching trains.
15/05 0005 NR Manchester Piccadilly Station Manager informs that a number of coaches have arrived at the station's Fairfield street entrance to take passengers to Preston and Blackpool.
15/05 0015 NR 1N71 2247 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North has been stood at Manchester Oxford Road station as the guard is unable to leave his cab and passengers are holding the doors open, passengers have attempted to drag the driver out of the window he is now secure and no injuries have been reported. Six BT Police officers are on the station but can not make their way through to the train.
15/05 0021 NR Northern Trains inform that 2D48 2309 Manchester Picc - Chester is cancelled after the passengers started vandalising units 142061 & 142026, the guard has left the train and the driver alighted via the window as passengers would not let him leave by the door. Train cancelled.
15/05 0033 NR TPE inform that there are large crowds blocking the road access to Manchester Piccadilly station (estimated +10,000 with approximately half trying to get to Preston or Blackpool), BT Police informed and confirm that officers are attempting to clear a route for the bus and coach services. There is also +1000 people at Manchester Oxford Road.
15/05 0037 NR 1N71 departs Manchester Oxford Road (81' late).
15/05 0045 NR Northern Trains inform 323235 has had a door badly damaged by passengers at Manchester Piccadilly (working additional service 2T11 2340 Manchester Picc - Manchester Airport), unit taken out of service. 142014 various windows smashed at Manchester Piccadilly station - taken out of service.
15/05 0426 NR Manchester Piccadilly station staff report there are still lots of football fans in Manchester and the numbers are starting to build up again at Manchester Piccadilly station. BT Police informed have officers on the station monitoring the situation. GM Central (G. Openshaw) updated and is enroute to the station to oversee events and clean up.
[Edited on 17-05-2008 by jr]
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Colin
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http://www.spike.com/video/world-cup-2006/2746694?cmpnid=800&lkdes=VID_2746694
Your all hypocrites!! 
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Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
http://www.spike.com/video/world-cup-2006/2746694?cmpnid=800&lkdes=VID_2746694
Your all hypocrites!!
Number of stabbed Germans = 0
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jr
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Sorry but i have lost all respect, dont care what anyone says, it was not a minority, the major stations was all fucked, that will take thousands to do that, conisdering there all in diffrent places
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Colin
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Every national event England is it the casuals smash something up, battle police & get arrested, not to mention warnings from governing body & bad press - Yet when theres a bit of trouble from some pissed idiots out to ruin it for everyone we should be banned from competition! Great!
[Edited on 17-05-2008 by Colin]
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jr
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i couldnt give a fuck, i have never seen Man U smash up spain, or arsenal smash up germany
this is not england vs scotland, its club football
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Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
i couldnt give a fuck, i have never seen Man U smash up spain, or arsenal smash up germany
this is not england vs scotland, its club football
And that!
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
Sorry but i have lost all respect, dont care what anyone says, it was not a minority, the major stations was all fucked, that will take thousands to do that, conisdering there all in diffrent places
a few hundred from 200k people is a minority.
Manchester wasnt ready for so many people they were ill equiped in all areas, there was too much booze brought allowed in & sold, Ive had many friends witnessed this 1st hand from the night & they all say the same thing!!
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
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Originally posted by jr
i couldnt give a fuck, i have never seen Man U smash up spain, or arsenal smash up germany
this is not england vs scotland, its club football
And that!
It wasnt the usual travelling support that turned up though, thats what you dont get. Usually you'll get a few thousand rangers fans make the effort to go to european games, here you had the oppertunity for everyone good or bad to go to a final 3 hours away.
Its not scotland V england but it shows your hardly saints when on forign soil either - I accept that its the arsehole element that causes you problems there so why cant you accept what im saying.?
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Xs
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I dont get how yous cant understand with the game being so easily accessible for the majority of the country it was easy for people to go simply to make trouble. Yes rangers fans were involved, I accept this.. however, there would definately have been an element of people simply there to make trouble. If the final was abroad these people wouldnt have been there as it costs alot of money to go abroad for football, but £20 on a train to manchester.
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rustyarchs
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wonder when a greenstreet/football factory type film will come out for rangers now
1 event will give rangers fans a reputation that has taken other supporters years of violence to build
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by rustyarchs
wonder when a greenstreet/football factory type film will come out for rangers now
1 event will give rangers fans a reputation that has taken other supporters years of violence to build
What : Shaun of the dead 2 - 1 night in Manchester 
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rustyarchs
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that would be easy,,,just grab a bunch of fans with hangovers the morning after the game
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Colin
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Yeah I thought that would be the most fitting title.
I dont condone whats happened at all, im just trying to show people that were not all thugs & 99% of the fans that went down to manchester went for a good time.
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Lawrah
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Ofc your not all thugs..all my frriends down there wouldnt even dream of doing what happend, and didnt. But they are still totally shamed of their supporters actions. I totally agree most of the scotland support went down for a good time, and sadly many "other" suport found it a good excuse for a fight.
Not sure if you head about the older guy from Lanarkshire who was done and has been banned from football matches for 4 years or something..he is a casual..he just decided it was Rangers he was going to "support", His house has been attacked and all sorts by other rangers support, basically hes a dirty human being.
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Colin
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Yep heard about him, also heard of the 11 'supporters' charged none were season ticket holders or members of the supporters or travel clubs. So basically people not interested in the club!
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rustyarchs
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Yeah I thought that would be the most fitting title.
I dont condone whats happened at all, im just trying to show people that were not all thugs & 99% of the fans that went down to manchester went for a good time.
end of the day rangers fans are angels compared to some of the others teams fans out there so feck it just let them talk as they wont change there opinion as it was made long before the rangers manchester crap happend 
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Colin
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Yeah I know. I, not even a die hard fan, im just sick of everyone jumping aboard slating the club/fans. All the Tims at work were having a field day!
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Jamie
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quote:
Originally posted by Shelly
every club has it's muppets, just watch real football factories...
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